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110cc smash, with kick strip sparkle, with electric no.

baron Mcpety
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hi, I have the 110cc smash, which is perfect, but the drama is that kick kicks to the touch, with good spark, but with the electric no, there is no spark, everything is barbaric with the electric, (battery, donkey, relay ,) but when the button is activated, the normal motor rotates, but there is no spark.
Guille59integrado
hace 6 años

Hello baron, good friend, the smash 110 came with two types of ignitions, a model came with an alternating charge CD and another with direct current CD. Surely or maybe yours is from Dc Capable that I am making you dizzy I explain more to the Creole There are 2 types of cdi one that works with alternating and the other with direct current the one of alternating activates a coil in the extactor and the one of continuous it does it by battery

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Guille59integrado
hace 6 años

If perhaps in your case you have the one that is powered by the battery And the problem may be that when you turn the starter motor it turns off the power to the cable that feeds the cdi You should measure the black / red cable that enters the cdi if when you start it, 12v arrive

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

if the twelve arrive to the cdi, but to the black with yellow of the coil, nothing is as if the cdi remained with the stop activated.

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Guille59integrado
hace 6 años

No the cdi does not carry stop that type of cdi the stop does it when you take away the 12v input fix the ground wires of the cdi (green) that makes good dough

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

This is 5 pins without battery assistance, and with stop.

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Guille59integrado
hace 6 años

You confused me friend (hahaha) when I told you to measure the black / red wire if I had 12v you told me that if it is impossible for me to dial you 12v if it is not assisted by (battery or 12v) then your cdi is Ac with charging coil of the stator Or do you have a cdi cable that is white with black that is the shutdown? If so, try disconnecting that cable

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

I have five wires, five pins ... the power is black with red, and has 12v. because the battery is well charged, that is, the thing is that the motorcycle kicks off, but with the electric no, you give it and there is no spark with electric, and check everything, and disconnect the white with black, to make it direct without Stop, and nothing. More in Creole Guille?

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Guille59integrado
hace 6 años

I would love to be able to stay a little more friend I have to enter motorcycles and close the workshop then later I will enter we will find the solution to that can not have so much mystery until later

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

Ok, I do the same, I close the workshop, and the truth has already happened to me with a couple more time ago, but in this case it is a punctual customer and for years, that has 6 motorcycles for delivery.

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MJGTSAS
MJGTSAS
4.613
hace 6 años

Good morning to both, very interesting the information about the ignition, if you start with a kick the cdi is alternating and if it has a battery and kick it works with continuous, try to disconnect the battery and hit the kick should turn on if it is alternating.
Since you have a workshop, it may be easy for you to try another one.

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

mjgtsas, is that I clarify that it is monophasic, with 5-pin CD without assistance to the battery, that is, I explain it with or without a battery, the problem is that the motorcycle (WITH THE ELECTRIC START, DOES NOT HAVE A SPARK) only. the operation and battery charge, is everything barbaro.me explained? that is ... if I disconnect the battery, how do I prove the lack of spark with the starter?

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MJGTSAS
MJGTSAS
4.613
hace 6 años

Ok, now I understand do the following with another battery, directly start the burrito by disconnecting the original battery and see if it starts. Donkey spins slowly the captor signal is lost.

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

That is the first thing I tried, and even then with the bareness of the motorcycle or an external one, it also has no spark with the donkey.

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
well, the problem was in the contact drum, the pare wire was tied. So disarm the drum and the plastic base plate was worn by overheating. sand and match the plate and voila, start perfectly with the electric, and cut.thanks for the contribution to all!
MJGTSAS
MJGTSAS
4.613
hace 6 años

I'm glad that you solved the problem but I have a doubt, to start it with either the kick or the electric burrito, you must put it in contact if it was grounded as it was that it started with the kick if the stop was grounded, no should start .-

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

because the stop (white bargain) was with the current (black), and not to ground. the operation is equal positive current, when touching mass the motorcycle is turned off.

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Guille59integrado
hace 6 años

Haha then you cheated on me friend haha pirque when I told you to disconnect the stop wire you didn't do it hahaha Well the good thing is that I stay
Since this is the opportunity to send greetings to MJGTSAS I hope you are well and another one goes for you baron greetings and have a good time

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baron Mcpety
hace 6 años

no ... thanks to both of you, che !! I've been motorcycle mechanics for 22 years, but sometimes something always burns your books. For me it's practice and solution, and as my old man said ... "mechanics is just a matter of thinking, with common sense" greetings to both of you (guille and mjgtas) hug

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