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Renault 12 does not turn on, does nothing. Renault 12 Mod 89 Box of 5

faustojoseal
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello folks from the forum, I'll bother you again with a new problem. Let's get to the point that time is money. As the title says, My car, Renault 12 Model 89 with fifth box does not turn on. Yesterday when I went to start it, I start, but notice that I start with very little force, as if the battery was discharged, but hey, I start, I went to buy some things, I finish buying and I get back to my house, I start the car, and it took a little more to start, this was no longer normal, I saw myself coming that something would happen. the car to gasoline to turn it off, I turn it off ... and as I was thinking that something was wrong ... I start, turn the key ... and nothing. not a noise, the lights of the pressure of oil, water, everything normal turns on, but when turning the key nothing happens ... not a noise. Obviously I looked for information, and some talk about relays, others say the drums, a few drum the key ... So I decided to create a post here to see if they could help me. I was watching and here I found this topic, renault 12 does not turn on whose solution was to change the coals of the donkey boot and bushings, if this were my case, my question is, would this procedure be possible for me to do? I am not a mechanic, change the spirals and the front shock absorbers myself, the water pump, the connecting rods, the stabilizer bar, the brake pads, the radiator, ever take out the alternator to take them to change diodes. In short, I did some things to the car myself, but I don't know ... this sounds complicated to me, although I saw and took out the donkey is not difficult, but I don't know if changing the coals, bushings and whatever it takes, if I can do it , of course ... if you conclude that this is the problem, I do not take more time, thank you very much, greetings. I add photo I update , donkey out. Where I frame in the image is where I have to give 12V direct with the battery? And what will happen when I do that? Will the donkey turn? Or will you try to spin? Or will it make only a noise? I want to know not to scare me haha, thanks!
Edurau
Edurau
835
hace 5 años

Ratonelec is right, even if the battery voltage is measured before, unless it has no current and has been discharged to the point of not reaching the starter motor. luck

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ratonelect63
ratonelect63
5.308
hace 5 años

Yes, but before putting + a thick cable of bendix and negative to a shell, place it in a clamp or make it fixed with something, the pair of guiro is going to take it out of your hand. } If you don't, bridge it with the 2 thick screws

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ratonelect63
ratonelect63
5.308
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
If fausto, as you did the other, now you will have a school in donkeys. First to know if it is a donkey or the rest, send it 12v direct from a fine cable to the donkey's donkey. .is just a continuous motor
faustojoseal
hace 5 años

Hello, ratonelect63, thank you very much for trying to help me, I ask you the following, can I get the donkey? I saw some posts and some mention that I could only take them out in a pit, which I obviously do not have. From what I saw there are three screws, those are the screws that opened to take out to get out? I leave you a photo where I ask you about the fine cable you mention and where I mark the screws I get to see. Today I gave the donkey a little tap, in addition to pushing the car a few meters, I tried to start it and it started with very little force, but I started ...,

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faustojoseal
hace 5 años

I saw that something must be welded when the coals are changed, can that be soldered with a normal welder? And with what is welded? With common tin? And if I give 12v straight to the thin cable of the bendix, what should happen? I ask you to know and not hit me a scare haha I prefer to know since what happened before doing it haha.
Thank you very much for your help, I hope it is something that I can solve, the truth is that I don't have much money for a mechanic at the moment.

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ratonelect63
ratonelect63
5.308
hace 5 años

if the fine cable with + 12v is a relay that sticks and sends 12v of force to the donkey with low consumption in key start .. the coals welded with a good welder dressed helping it preheating carcass area in burner and thicker tin cheaper

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faustojoseal
hace 5 años

Thank you, very early tomorrow I will get to work. I hope everything goes well, I will see if I can upload photos of the process, in case it is satisfactory ajaja greetings.

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faustojoseal
hace 5 años

ratonelect63, Hello good day, as I said yesterday, I put to work, the donkey is already out, I leave an image in the post, to guide me well where to do the test of 12V and what will happen when I give 12V, I hope you answer, thank you very much!

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faustojoseal
hace 5 años

I told you what I did, watch as 30 videos on YouTube and everyone said the same, the negative of the battery to the donkey's mass, eg: one of the screw holes where it is screwed to the engine block, the positive where the thick cable goes, and there to bridge the small cable and there I would have to turn the donkey and activate the blessix, I did it ... but nothing happened, or it was sore, so I started to disassemble it and had the somewhat worn carbomes, I say a bit because they weren't all eaten, which I was sure ...

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faustojoseal
hace 5 años

that would be like that, but no, they were spent a little more than half ... but hey, I changed them, but now I want to kill myself because I couldn't take out the 3 philips screws that hold the automatic, bedix, fight all afternoon, I put wd40 and nothing, I tapped him to see if he loosened and nothing, I don't know, I tried a thousand things but I couldn't remove those 3 damn screws ... and if I don't take them out I can't arm him because I can't put the obstacles that go up and down the coil, I really want to kill myself, I thought that everything else would be what would complicate my life, and in the end I was complicated by all 3 simple philips screws.

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faustojoseal
hace 5 años

I don't know what to do now, if I can't get them out, I don't know, I will try to eat the head of the tortnillos with a hole punch and I will have to buy others, because from what I see, they are super grabbed, glued, no more than 6 years or more that donkey is not touched, so now I have that problem, I was until recently but I gave up for today, if you have any technique to loosen screws so grabbed I would appreciate a lot, and if not, nose, I'll see what I do. thanks for your help!!

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faustojoseal
hace 5 años

Thanks for your help ratonelect63, finally yesterday I changed the coals, the donkey out of the car with the battery and it worked very well, after fighting a little I managed to put it in the car hahaha and at the first attempt the car started off the best, I hope that It lasted a while until I could buy a new one, yesterday I asked and I would say 4000 for a new one, so thanks and regards!

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ratonelect63
ratonelect63
5.308
hace 5 años

maybe it will help you by throwing w4o-cocacola in the bolts, let it rest, then hit it with a fine hammer in the head of bolts. there are times that they get nailed badly ... it helps you a lot in the key to fit a pipe to have a better lever

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