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Tv Philisp 20GX1850 / 85R does not energize the flyback.

Rosario Maria Fuentes
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Friends of the forum, if you can help me with this fault, the metered TV does not energize the flay, the B + is in 95 v. When giving power try to energize, that is pin 6 of the flay 9 volts appear which are the ones that feed the vertical (tda3653b) of course the correct thing is 25 volts, and so the other voltages that the flay supplies, appear very fallen, and replace the flay, and the filters of 47 mf of source B +, if someone knows this fault and can help. PD I didn't find the chassis number anywhere. use the jungle: tda8362c the micro: 84c844p / 107v.5 the flay has these numbers: (249699) (2436994) (NA19L) Vertical tda3653b Thanks friends.
Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 5 años

Are you measuring on the flyback pin directly?

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Rosario Maria Fuentes
hace 5 años

Hi Victor, I measure it after the diode

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 5 años

ah, what you need to measure is on pin 36 of tda8362 if the horizontal starting voltage arrives

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Rosario Maria Fuentes
hace 5 años

The horizontal starting voltage is fine, at 8 volts

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Rosario Maria Fuentes
hace 5 años

Hi Felipe, = (I don't have a frequency meter, filters replace them with new ones

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felipe  antonio
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
suggestions. The source voltje is fine in 95vcd. 1.- connect your frequency meter at the base of the horizontal output transistor and check the frequency 15750 cycles.- we have a diagram that matches the vertical ci, but the jungle is tda 8363 c. .2.- you remove the flyback and check with a meter to see the filters, both the vertical ones, and the secondary ones of the flyback.- check the jungle number and confirm. comment. regards. Felipe ascended PD Master Victor.- I already saw that he was justified in the contribution of the filter voltage. regards.
Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 5 años

Oh yes, I haven't seen it. Greetings friend

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felipe  antonio
hace 5 años

I will send you the diagram of a vpp probe (peak to peak voltage). - Here we are going to take advantage of what seems to have oscillation. pin number 6 has a reference of 248vpp, the heater (filament has 23.2 vpp). - those are the two references that we will use. So you have a load. the flyback b + pin places an external 15 / 50vcd source. put the probe in the heater (it has to be placed) it gives power and observes, comment how much the probe marks.

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felipe  antonio
hace 5 años

PRECAUTIONS.- Do not connect the probe, or the multimeter in the collector of the horizontal output transistor, to the voltage of the original source .-- procedure to check the fllyback in the circuit. (the slightest doubt you have comment) .- 1.- connect the probe in the hot collector, 2.- check the voltage of the original source (95vcd), 3.- check the voltage of the external source (we use 30vcd) .- 4.- "rule of three" 30vcd per thousand is 30mil, between 95vcd is 315vpp, this is what the probe should mark at 30vcd. Comment on what source you have and we make the account. regards.

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
try the flyback with a tester or take it to a store where you can try it. On those TVs the bad flyback is very common. greetings
Rosario Maria Fuentes
hace 5 años

I did a flyback test, in another philisp chassis that works well and the flyback is very similar, and I work well, of course on the horizontal side, just place the collector and yoke pin, the B + and earth pin and it already gave me high voltage, leave about 20 minutes and work well

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 5 años

but I do not connect the secondary, if there is a short loop with that test it will not detect it.

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Rosario Maria Fuentes
hace 5 años

Then I will connect the secondary, is that in this chassis the vertical works with 12 votes. there little by little I am discarding and with your help and that of other technicians who want to help me. And the Antonio Felipe project, I will try to study that.

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 5 años

Did I try the horizontal output transistor?

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Rosario Maria Fuentes
hace 5 años

The H.out transistor is the first one that measured, measured well, but nevertheless replaced it with a new one, taking care of its quality and characteristics.

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