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TV cyberlux model Tvr2cx-21us chassis ph08kx-n35 without voltage en +

romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Fail The cyberlux tv pho8-n35 without voltage at + b, in the primary c507 175v arrive at the strw6554a pin 1 175v 2 = 0.3v 3 = fluctuating from 12a 15v, 4 = fluctuates d 0a2v 5y6 0v, which itself change and nothing remains the same unlinked the + by nothing, also the vertic and audio and nad the volt d chopper in stamb are in vd562 13.7v Vd563 21.6v Vd565 0.4v Vd566 21.9v vd559 0v vd564 0v are as outside Normally to try to measure volt on, I have to turn off the TV suiche and download the c507 and turn on the suiche with the test at the same time on the ground and + by 144v arrive and fades away until 0v the r521 is also checked 1205 r520 is fine help colleagues
manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

Hello Friend. check the r 514 of 36k may be undervalued

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

Friend is fine measures 35.4k another contribution friend

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend. check the filters and diodes that are after the choper may be undervalued and check the opto coupler and resistors of that stage

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

I'm going to that but the r514 35.4k is fine with that value

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend has to measure 36k but it could be because he lacks some ohmiage

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

I'm going to look for an exact one and the r554 of 150k measures 154.4k and right now I'm going for the diodes and the filters

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend. try another eprom of the same number if you open the tv.

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

Well my friend still does not turn on change filter + b c567 c568 change the optocop, rebice secondary diodes are fine replace the r514 and r554 and nothing that turns on the eprom that has is fm24c08a and I don't have an equal I have one of a cyberlux 29 "and it is cw24c08c help x please

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

on 2 occasions a similar fault happened to me. and it was that the network cable had it connected in the demagnetization, and the demagnetization where the network cable goes. it almost drives me crazy

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

Thanks friend for the input but it is well connected next to the fuse

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend. If the TV micro. of 29 is the same as the same number, you can try only to turn on the TV and first measure pin 8 of the eprom aber if it has 5volt. in estambay

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

No friend are not equal 21 is tda11115ps / n3 / 3mc2
And the 29 is tda9377ps / n3 / n1953 and I don't know what else to change

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend. You measured pin 8 of the eprom aber if it has 5volt.

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

If friend pin 8 of the eprom I have no voltage or on the microphone, the LED lamp does not turn on help x please colleague

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend. If you don't have volt. in that pin you won't turn on the tv. you have to check the line that feeds the mic and check the line of pin 8 of the eprom open because those 5 volts do not go. to pin 8

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

friend as I said before I did not have voltj in the + b in the secondary of the chopper in stam are in vd562 = 13.7v Vd563 21.6v Vd565 = 0.4v Vd566 = 21.9v vd559 = 0v vd564 = 0v the voltages are raised less in the + b 0v and that is why I think the eprom does not feed me and the micro LED does not turn on the TV does not come into print and does not turn on the LED

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

correct friend change the regulator x a new one and nothing the opto was also changed, now that tl431 where it is located and the diodes have been measured but without removing it from the board and they measure well and the small filters if not replaced by colleague

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

no friend does not take it and check the diagram and it does not appear either

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend. Well, it doesn't bring that tl431 but if you have the diagram it is easier for you to get the fault I thought you didn't have the diagram

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

If I had the diagram but I still do not give the fault x that I am looking for access with the colleagues of the post to help me since I am not very expert and I am starting on this topic, and I have already changed several pieces and nothing with the fault t I have to remove the suiche, download the primary filter and return the suiche to on and at the same time I have the tester on the ground and + b to see if I get any voltages and if it arrives but high 144v and at the same time 0v goes and the diagram tells me that there are 110v, leaving the + b in 0v and so that voltj appears again to repeat the same

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manolo karvalo
hace 5 años

friend. If you have left with volt. the large source filter is a signal that the voltage regulator is bad because it does not discharge or it may be some resistance that is bad or some preset is oxidized from the source

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

ok but I already changed the regulator x a new one but I think the problem is in the primary source xq the large filter voltage is 170v but the diagram does not indicate that filter voltage, I will check the resistors and the preset is the adjustable regulator with the screwdriver

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

No, these Chinese TVs do not use a TL431 error comparator. These use a simple NPN transistor of nomenclature C1815 linked to the optocouple of the secondary side of the source, change it so measure well and measure the resistances that are around it. Without exception.

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

correct colleague carries a transistor c1815 tomorrow I change it and I indicate even if I already change the r554 and r552

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Ok but don't skip the VD560. nor the R555. another thing is what you say what you measured secondary voltage in some diodes Are these voltages stable (even if they are bad)? measure voltage again in parallel to C567 (by desoldering + b pin on the flyback, do not solder it until the source is repaired) It also measures ...

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

In parallel to C562. C563, C558, C564, C161. You also say that the voltage of + b appears and fades. How fast does it do ?, When this happens, in the fat filter (c507) does the voltage go too? .revises diodes in the primary.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

In parallel to C562. C563, C558, C564, C161. You also say that the voltage of + b appears and fades. How fast does it do ?, When this happens, in the fat filter (c507) does the voltage go too? .revises diodes in the primary.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Watch out for VD565 that is not bad or the c564, the voltage there is vital for which optoacople to work.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

check VD581,

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Be sure to take the ground of the tuner or screen mesh as a reference in the case of secondary voltages. and in the case of the primary, the negative of the fat filter. do not confuse!

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

Colleagues continued with the failure and I did everything they said and rhonnyua the + b always had luck and the c507 keeps the volt not low 170v and replace all the filters of the secund chop the v553 vd560 vd581 r552 r553 r554 r556 r557 r522 r523 r511 r513 r512 r519 r524 r502 vd519 all resists mark well off the board i don't know what else to check help x please don't want to give me defeated

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Brother, I asked him more questions and he didn't answer. I asked him for some voltages. Read well what I sent you and answer everything.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

When connecting to the network, what voltage does it have in c567.

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

If my friend answered, he relives everything he said and nothing the vd560 and r55 is fine if I measure voltj in the diodes all are but elevated where there is no + by which food is the + b you are disconnected and I measure with the land of flay and tuned vd565 well all the choper filters were changed the diodes are fine the vd 581 is fine the c1815 was changed and nothing.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

It measures voltages between pin 1 and 2 of the optoacople but not with respect to ground. Bone black tip in the cathode of the opto internal diode and red tip in the anode of the same internal diode. Those are the 1 and 2 legs that I mean. said internal diode is drawn in diagram. give me this voltage and what have I asked you

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

friend, the filter voltage is c562 24v, c563 24v, c558 4.8v, c564 0v, c161 16v, c507 171v, the c507 keeps its volatje always c567 and c568 when connecting it reaches 145v equal to + by with it fading to zero and I had to unplug and wait for a while for that voltage to come back, the optocouple on pin 1y2 0v and pin 3y4 11v excuse me for the delay my intern is pity

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

I already replaced everything that asked me for resistance filters the c1815 the zener diodes measure well equal to the diodes of the primary and secondary are well everything was measured by disconnecting it from the card

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

brother are you from venezuela?

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

well, the source control system is not working and I say it for two things. The first is what in opto 1Y2 pins there should be 1v approx. and the second is what if there is no voltage in c564 the opto will never work and therefore the source is out of control

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

check the c564 line, it may be short. measure its ohmiaje with respect to earth. Change the VD565. the other is to raise that diode and with external source inject 10 to twelve volts into the c564 I don't know if you've ever done that

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

Yes brother of Venezuela, that is the problem and I do not give with the fault I will have to change the regulator again to see what happens xq already changed and tested and nothing in the choper I have no voltage on those diodes that already indicate the vd564 vd565 vd559 in the others yes but high voltaj, and it is as you say this runaway

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

no friend of injecting voltage with external source no and the source i have of 12v dc is pc..sirvera. and how would he use it to put earth from the source to the cold ground of TV and the positv to that of c564 or not.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

That regulator seems good friend. If you change it you will have the same result. If you want, you can give me your number and I'll call you to give you some help. I'm from Maracaibo

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

If it serves friend. but you must be sure that there is no short in that line. that's why you should measure the ohmiaje between positive and negative of c564

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

Of course, my friend will be happy with you. hehe but not all failures are easy or equal.

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

the strange thing is that sometimes I connect it to the network and turn on the LED and all voltages are high the c507 175V + B 150v but eye is disconnected from the flay, and if I disconnect it from the network it becomes equal to the commence without voltage in + B and does not turn on the led

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

Good evening colleagues is to add that the failure of this TV has already been SOLVED thanks to rhonnyuam I was able to solve, well the problem was the choper transformer that for the VD565 pin I did not get +14 voltage for the others if, the diode was changed, it I raise the same and nad 0v, rnonnyuam suggests that I inject + 12v with an external source that did it and effectively all voltaj were restored, now that line of the same TV had to be fed, the voltage of pin VD563 + was taken 16v making a bridge and proceed to light and ready all voltaj were restored, thanks to all x aprt

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yoelsi
yoelsi
415
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
friend check or preferably change it in the source after the fuse there must be a black resistor must say ntc 5d-15 or something similar in the total number that resistance when it is devalued causes that fault and had occasions that measured me correct and decided to change it and Bingo lucky friend
romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años

I don't see her I don't see her I think she doesn't use her There is nothing similar to what she tells me and with that number either

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romulo caraballo2017
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good evening colleagues is to add that the failure of this TV has already been SOLVED thanks to rhonnyuam I was able to solve, well the problem was the choper transformer that for the VD565 pin I did not get +14 voltage for the others if, the diode was changed, it I raise the same and nad 0v, rnonnyuam suggests that I inject + 12v with an external source that did it and effectively all voltaj were restored, now that line of the same TV had to be fed, the voltage of pin VD563 + was taken 16v making a bridge and proceed to light and ready all voltaj were restored, thanks to all x aprt. now it has a bug in the audio goes and it goes but that the client had told me that I already had that fault thanks again to all x help.
RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
You can close the subject brother, A pleasure.
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