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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello, this model 21PT3005 / 55 TV, chassis L03.2L AA, small plate. which came because it suddenly turned off then turned it on and then turned off again. Checking I found nothing wrong, so I changed the C2447 and C2405. I entered the setup and saw that it showed error 11. After so much I placed the three diodes to cancel the IK. And it worked well, I thought so. Then it looked green, check welds and it didn't go out anymore. After several days it went out and now it doesn't turn on. Remove the diodes and check voltage in the secondary are 12v and 95v. Also in the Q7451 there are 4 in the base when giving power goes up to 8v, in pin 33 of the onechip there are 3v when giving power goes down to 1v, in the eprom there are 3.3v. In pin 39 and 14 the 8v do not arrive. After several tests one time it turned on but I failed to give video once it went out. I don't know what to check anymore. I listen to suggestions
Sergio santos menbreno
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
friend try another screen and adjust the screen so it doesn't protect
Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

I already tried another screen and there are no changes

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Sergio santos menbreno
hace 5 años

friend give a good touch-up of the wing to the target more in the vertical

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
On pin 33, when you turn on the TV you must change to 1v. That's fine If pin 39 and 14 there are no 8v, then it is there where you should look for the fault. Measure that pin with the ohmmeter with respect to ground. If there is no low resistance, then focus on the 8v source. Which is originated from here Eye with that resistance marked in the red box, is next to the tuner and opens and the 8v do not appear and therefore the TV does not turn on. Anyway there are the voltages of transistors 7491 and 7496, Give power, measure and compare. Both transistors must drive when giving power to the TV. Eye: on one side of the R3491 are the 33v of the hedge (if I remember correctly) and on the other side there must be 9.6v which is what the image that I upload. . This chassis is delicate and the PCB board is quite bad, it breaks from nothing, stack with welds and bad contacts You comment results. EDITED Bad friend. I had not taken into account that this voltage is generated only when there is high voltage and supplies the initial 8v .. That is, in standby there are about 8v that come from the choper (Vaudio) fixed by the zener 6625 which is 8.2v. And on ignition these initial 8v are replaced by 8v that actually come from the Fly. It measures voltahe in collector and emitter of Q7496. there must be the 8 v you are looking for. but go to the beginning that is to say the mentioned zener (6625) The R3634 is the one that separates the deo choper voltage with the zener (Remember that the chopper generates 2 voltages that are + B and the one that I tell you is Vaudio) EDITED Note that the following image can be seen as the -12 feed the vertical section, guide by diagram and measure. [Img] https://adjuntos.yoreparo.com/imagen_post/0004/43/545ce95d399ed0d780850a652f9d5c06a7e8fd55.png [/ im
Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

The R3491 measures well. There is no measure of tension in it. Regarding pins 14 and 56 there is no measurement with respect to ground. In the B of Q7496 there are only 0.7v. the 8 v do not arrive those come from the Vsuply that gives the 160v the flayback

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

ok friend but it doesn't make to ignite? Isn't there high tension for a moment?

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Edited Commentary. I hope to be helping you, regards

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

In agreement in the secondary one is the + B and the vaudio that is to say 95v and 12v. There is no altal does nothing. In Q7496 the voltage is only 0.7v

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Then according to the diagram and images that I show you, you must follow the line to see where the problem is. That voltage is missing, and indicate the origin and how it changes those 12v to 8, Regards

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

In the zener 6625 there are 10v that reach the collector of 7496 and in the base there are only 0.7v. I keep checking

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

An NPN transistor only needs 0.7v to be able to drive, that is to say that the 7496 is acting as a suiche, so if there is 10v in the collector, there must also be in the emitter (minus what the transistor consumes, so there must be 9.4v in emitter), otherwise there are two possibilities: The transistor is bad or the emitter line has an overconsumption or short.
I explain myself, if an NPN transistor receives in its Base more than 0.6v, the result is as if there were a bridge or jumper between collector and emitter.
and that voltage is the 8v you need, but you must give it power to

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

that the 8v feed pin 39, but I am not sure that this is the pin of Hvcc that is the power supply for the micro to generate 15,600kh. then you can do a test by jumpering these 10v that you got to this pin and see that this does not fall or see if the TV does to turn on ..

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Another question that I clarify is that do not be confused if the diagram says that at the base of 7496 there must be 9v. These voltages are measured while the TV is on and not in stand-by.
So those "9" appear only when the Flyback starts working, the rest you can kill your head trying to find that voltagem greetings

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

Indicate that you place a bridge from C 7496 to pin8 or 39. do you confirm if so

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

I tell him that I tried again this time I tapped the relay and gave power and the TV turned on I heard it energized and once turned off. He didn't have time for anything

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

I kept trying and the 8v already appeared in 7496 which indicated that the TV was on and nothing was appreciated, I measured the scrrem and measured 414v was indeed on. leaving the tip in the scrrem and watching the line appeared in the center and turned off

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

checking the voltage on the vertical transistors the -12v were not. I went to 7580 and at its base and transmitter there was 0v. And he didn't turn on anymore. I already changed the relay, the C2580 and the transistor measured well

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

In short, when it turned on, it was closed because the -12v was missing in the collector. and these do not reach the relay. . I already checked everything and I find nothing wrong. no longer lit

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Ok friend, or friend, I indicate that the relay is activated or is not irrelevant since that only activates the demagnetizer and a TV does not need that to turn on. What I do believe is that you have fake welds and cut tracks.
The best way to find them is to twist the plate carefully and give it power, or use a brush or stick to press the plate underneath in several areas and give it power to see if it turns on.
But in my opinion the best way is to measure voltages.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

When a voltage is not found, see its origin, that is, leg 8 of the Flyback. (eye, measure after the rectification of the diode or damage the multimeter) if the voltage is then follow the track, R 3455 may be open or loose., use a magnifying glass and good light (that of the sun would be ideal) also the filter 2446 which filters said -12v

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

In this chassis the pcb board is very bad, of poor quality and you have to look very good if joining the tracks we join it to the right place. Here I have a chassis of this model and I had to use the multimeter in continuity scale to be sure to see where to reset the tracks.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

Be careful with 2460 and 2465 that are damaged. the r3446 too
I uploaded another image

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

First, focus on leg 8 of the Fly, we must find where the voltage is lost. Luck

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

perfect the C2465 and change it there are 65v and -12v if they do not arrive. I check that tomorrow and comment

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

The one that filters the -12v is the 2446 CENTRATE ALLI.
Friend analyzing the diagram I realize that the -12v enter is through the collector of transistors Q7461 and Q7462
Sorry, analyzing these circuits is complicated.

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Tania_yaritza
hace 5 años

Hello, I inform you that I could not complete the repair. after so much time the TV sometimes turned on what moved, check welds, anyway. The client decided to withdraw it. unfinished Thank you for your tempo and support.

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RhonnyUAM
RhonnyUAM
1.284
hace 5 años

At your order, you should have a cut track. still rate the help please.

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