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Tv daewoo slim chassis cx-s21cb black screen, without channels

edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Greetings colleagues I bring this particular flaw in a daewoo slim TV, the symptoms are as follows, the TV turns on and the noise is heard as rainy but with the screen completely dark and without a trace having the cable signal connected, the strange thing is that responds to the increase in screen control by showing delay lines and pressing the menu button clearly shows the screen osd with good color and brightness. After a few minutes it starts making noises and the audio of the channel begins to sound but with the black screen, the volume bar and all the menu functions are observed but without image channels. Initially review welds of the channel selector and measure their voltages with 33 and 5 volts present, also change the 10 microfarad capacitor to 250 volts that filters the voltage of 180 volts and review the welds of the cable that communicates the chassis with the card of the barrel of the screen, in addition to this replace the capacitor with more than 100 microfarads per 160 volts, but none of that has given me results, my question for the expert colleagues is where to check and what other tests can I do? Thanks in advance for your contributions and greetings from Venezuela!
Javier Chavez C
hace 5 años

Is the symptom repeated by the auxiliary AV inputs connecting a DVD?

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

Greetings and thanks for answering, I will test and comment, I still have to say that the filaments are on ...

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

Greetings javier chavez connect the dvd and the same thing happens, the movie is heard but the screen remains dark, according to what will be happening? Will the integrated jungle circuit be damaged?

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

Taking advantage of the comment of the friend Nico Mena I would like to know if any colleague knows what is the abl and heat pin of the flyback of this tv (BSC24-N0418)

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 5 años

I can't find it's chassis on the web ... the abl pin on that fli-bak-BSC24-N0418- it seems to be the pin8 ... it's not totally safe ... if it is there should be some positive voltage ... between 8 y15v .... put the tv model ...

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

model DTA-21BRA

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello colleague: I do not have just that chassis ... I have something very similar- CX-A21FB ... see if you have the fli-bak- T471-BSC25-NXXX and the micro-jungle N201-TMP8895-XXXX .... if it is the same measures q, abl voltage you have on pin9 of flibak .... measure q, tension you have on pin27 abl of the micro jungle ... measure cathode tension ... if cathode tensions are almost equal to the voltage of the 180v of vodeo that may be the reason for the black screen ... it should measure voltages on pins 50-51-52- bgr-of the micro jungle .... in source I have the 5Q1265RT .... ok ... greetings! !!
edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

This tv does not use microjungla uses the and the la76931j, flyback is the bsc24-n0418, nor does it use that regulator use the cs6n60f thanks for responding

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luis tartaglia
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi. That failure for me to understand has nothing to do with what you changed. Black screen with filament on can be ABL failure. Better said automatic brightness control increase. Or luminance. Another that may be is that Xray protection is activated. if it measures the voltages of RGB and each cathode (KR-KG-KB) and ABL. It will be possible to know where the fault is. You must comment on them.
edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

Thank you for commenting Luis Tartaglia, the measurements I made in the collector of each color transistor are 178 volts, but only the following acronyms RK = 178 volts, GK = 331 volts appear on the screen of the screen cannon , and HT and GND, in 2 of the remaining pins the voltages were 178 volts, these voltages were measured taking as ground the flyback or the channel selector chassis, the voltage of 331 volts catches my attention, my question Now it's like interpreting these values

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luis tartaglia
hace 5 años

Those 331b must be scrin or G2. NO of cathode. Measure at the terminal where the 4 or 5 wires go together on the board. 3 are from the rgb signals another mass and another must have 5o 9 v

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

Greetings I measured the voltages of the 5 cables that go to the card of the screen gun for R, G, B I have 1.4 volts (with respect to the ground wire of that same bus) on the remaining cable I have 9 volts

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YOSEPHANDER
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good afternoon friend, check the OCP protections and XRAY any of these is being activated ... Daewoo Chassis CX-T21SB.pdf [232.40kb]
edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

Thanks for answering, where do I locate these protections ... I have no diagram!

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YOSEPHANDER
hace 5 años

Send chassis number friend ...

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

CHASSIS CX-S21CB

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YOSEPHANDER
hace 5 años

Good afternoon friend in my first response I leave the diagram I hope you serve greetings ...

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Greetings colleagues after both measuring tensions on the card and the barrel of the screen, in the selector, change filters and other components without having results, it occurred to me to touch the integrated jungle and it was "very hot" for what I did the test replacing it and the TV began to work correctly, the video of the channels appeared as well as the video of the auxiliary input, I thank all the colleagues who took their time to collaborate and give the post for future references as solved
nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 5 años

ok friend: you gave the solution to yourself .... in my comment I would have suggested you measure the voltages on the RGB-jungles output pins of the mic or jungle ... reason x which had a black screen ... that is q, I was very successful in my suggestion ... but it did not give me a solution or a positive vote .... I also congratulate you on the achievement ... greetings!

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

I measured the voltages of the jungle R, GB and I commented them but this tv does not use microjungla nor the components that I mention as a regulator, flyback I mean we are talking about another chassis ... I also thanked him for his comment but if what you are looking for it is the point or positive vote there is no problem I grant it for your collaboration to solve the fault ... thank you very much !!!

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edgarrodriguezgonzalez201
hace 5 años

With all due respect, I think that Yoreparo is a help tool among electronics lovers and other branches to solve failures, not to accumulate points.

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