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21PL Samsung TV with excess of + B in 175volt

pantera85
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
good afternoon friend of the forum, I have a problem with a Samsung TV of chassis KS9A-AA41 ..! I tell you this TV I came to the workshop because the screen looked short of one side of the screen and as a double bone the typical problem of the ceramic capacitors of the orizontal, uncovering it I realize that the R414 of 15k was charred, I changed it For a new prisoner when the TV is turned on it looks perfect for a few seconds since m burns the R414 again the carboniza. Then I chose to change the following parts the DZ402- C405-C401-C420-C403-C404 but I continued burning the r414 Eye: Then I measured the voltage on the + B and realized that it was at 175volt in stambay and I think it is too much because it should be between 120volt so I get on it and go to the voltage controller and check the TL431z programmable diode, and the R817 of 130k and the R822 of 2.5k are fine, but in the same way I change them and nothing follows the high voltage, also change the filters of the associated + b resistance, touch up all the welding and nothing. I also got into the regulator source. I measured its voltages and they are fine but I changed it to discard and nothing remains high, also check resistance and filters and they are ok, also change the optocouple and nothing, and even change the flayback and nothing, m asks It is because it is elevated, I unlink the + b of the secondary of the chopper and in the filters it is still elevated, I COULD HELP FRIENDS I WOULD THANK YOU OF HEART AND M COULD TELL WHERE FROM YES, THE SECONDARY VOLTAGE EXITS XQ IF MY SOURCE IS OK IN ITS VOLTAGE, XQ THAT EXCESS IN THE SECONDARY, FRIENDS SOMEONE M COULD HELP, I AM FROM VENEZUELA FRIENDS GREETINGS
luis tartaglia
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi. Source electrolytes are not controlled friend. Change for new. Unlink the flyback pin and place 100w focus on the + by mass. So you will know the tension of the source. control or compare the tester taking voltage measurement on another tv in case it is marking you badly for failure or lack of battery or battery. You should also measure the other source output voltages and comment on them. Because if the + b is high the others will be too. Check voltage on pin-by-pin regulator and comment. Main filter voltage. patiently check the resistors and diodes. When in doubt, solder one end and measure again. doubt the regulator.
nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
hello colleague: sharing a suggestion with colleague Luis ... the tv cannot turn on with the + b with a voltage of 175v ... that voltage must be in stand-by ... then when giving the power deve order go down to 125v in C812 at source ... do what the colleague Luis tells you ... change the C812 of 100mfx160v and the C824 of 1000mfx25v..prove the source with a 60-75w lamp between + by mass to know more accurately q, voltage is in the + b when giving power ... the problem of q, burns the R414 of 15kohm ,,, must be xq, the values of the CR404s and CR405S are not the q, are listed in the scheme ... the CR 404s must be 680pf x 2kv and must be polyester .... just like, the CR405S is 4700pfx400v and polyester .... do the suggested tests and stabilize the source in the 125v. ..and change the layers x the mentioned values and q, be of polyester .... ok..comment results ... greetings !!!
Javier Chavez C
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
With that excess voltage mentioned by the TV or turn it on and burn several elements in a fraction of seconds. You comment that it turns on with the defect of the horizontal strip. The moment the TV manages to turn on and stays on, what voltage does it get at + B? Check the good condition of the instrument battery, plus its calibration by measuring on another TV. Pay attention to the land reference you are using, (HOT and COLD). COLD is for the secondary of the Chopper transformer: metal housing of the tuner or discharge mesh on the aquadag of the TRC.
pantera85
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Thank you very much, friends, for taking some valuable time to help me. following the assurances of Luis tartaglia then place a focus on collector and Emizor, eye in stambay there is 170vol and when giving power the focus turns on and the voltage of + b stabilizes at 120vol. That had been commented by Nomenomena, my question does not open a problem that in Stambay there that voltage, and with that of the R414 which is charred because it has changed some by some capacitors for new and of the same value and of polyester and now it does not carbonize I mean it lasts a little more about 4 to 5 minutes and it starts to get so hot that the body of the R414 starts voting smoke, and thanks for helping me friends
nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 5 años

with respect to the R414 you must ensure that the value of the cr405S is 4700pf ... or ... 4.7nf x 400v of polyester ... you must also ensure that the DZ402 of 5.6v is not short. The CR409s of 470pfx2kv should also be checked or replaced by a polyester if it is damaged or open ... (the CR404s is of fundamental importance) ... since between the (CR404S of 680pfx2kv) and the (CR405S of 4700pf ) form a capacitive divider and cut the pulse width hor, q. It is more than 1000v peak ... if all that is ok .. change the CR404s of 680pf x one of 470pfx2kv ...

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 5 años

and test if the R414 no longer heats ... you must ensure that the R414 is 15kohm x 2w ... the R414 should not take so much temperature ... in relation to q, in stand-by there are 175v that is not normal ... because the C812 and C813 in the + b are maximum of 160v ... it is rare that, they are not burst ... notice if your voltmeter takes the voltages well ... if you still noticed the prob, of the 175v in stand-by try to change the R834 and R835 of 47kohm of 2w .. .x two R of 22kohm of 2w ... and you see if the stand-by voltage drops ... if the prob still follows, from the stand-by in 175v we will see in the primary of the source something is not right ...

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pantera85
hace 5 años

Hello friend nicomena20 I had not written because in Venezuela there is the serious problem, I had electricity and they cut them every so often and even for days, now they cut it very little, well friend I tell you that I already solved the problem of burning the R414 thanks to you and the others who contributed their grain of sand, I had changed the C404 from 680pf to 2kv and the C405 from 4700pf to 400v for new ones but it turns out that those new ones were in bad condition because I bought new ones again and now if see the image well and the R no longer burns or heats and with the voltage of 175 in stambay

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pantera85
hace 5 años

And with the voltage of 175 in stambay, I chose to change the filters for about 250volts so as not to have a problem of getting damaged faster, I have the television under test for a week and so far it has worked perfectly without any problem, EYE: only in Estambay there are 175 and when you give the order of low power immediately to stable 120vol, who think friend, and as I repeat you already have a week working without problem, the filters do not get hot or the resistance either, thanks friends for help me to solve this fault, especially to nicomena20 without less appreciating others

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luis tartaglia
hace 5 años

Qur good repair it. Csify the contributions.

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