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LG 21fu6rl-LG CW81B chassis TV Does not turn on problem with source

Televisor LG 21FU6R

Televisor LG 21FU6R

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hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good afternoon, I have this TV model 21fu6rl with chassis model CW81B, the problem I have is that from one moment to another I stop showing image, it only gave sound, apparently it was the Horizontal C6090 and the condenser, but before changing it I was doing tests of voltages and had voltages in the fly and discard at the output of the T803 transformer too, but then it did not turn on and towards (tic-tic-tic) at the source and after a while I stopped making that sound and no longer gave voltages in the secondary of the T803 transformer, only voltages in the primary, and now it gives continuity in all the pins of the secondary, (when desoldering of the board all the pins of the secondary, it shows continuity reading only in their respective windings, that is to say no The transformer is short) My question is, in that case, what are the possible faults and what elements may have failed? Change the horizontal Transistor and the capacitor C414. T803 transformer voltages pin 1-5: 165V pin 1-7: 165V pin 2-5: 165V pin 2: 7: 165V pin 1-2: 0V pin 5-7: 0V
luis tartaglia
hace 5 años

place everything in its place and measure at the exit of the diodes, on the cathode - completely desoldering the flyback pin corresponding to + b-
see and comment if the ST LED turns on

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leasmacruz
leasmacruz
1.594
hace 5 años

To start if it gave sound the horizontal was not bad

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Usuario electronic
hace 5 años

Luis Tartaglia,. I already isolated the terminal from the b +, but the ST LED does not turn on, I think the diodes it refers to are the D813 and D826 that leave the terminals I have 342 millivolts. on the led I have 160 millivolts only.

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luis tartaglia
hace 5 años

If the LED does not turn on, the source does not oscillate

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hace 5 años

Thank you very much for your comments, I have reviewed and the problem of the source and apparently for the moment I have identified this integrated that is bad IC810 (W6554A), where I live I have not been able to get it and it will take me a little longer while I travel and bring it As soon as I replace it and verify measurements in other components I will be telling you how it goes, again thanks, I have learned many things.

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Javier Chavez C
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Completely isolating the horizontal output stage (FBT and TSH) from the + B source. Place a bulb as a simulated + B charge. If the + B does not appear. Avoid searching for the defective component both in the secondary stage, error amplifier circuit, Optocoupler and then the components in the primary stage of the Chopper transformer. That way to be able to recover the different working voltages of the TV
Usuario electronic
hace 5 años

Thank you for responding with help, you can illustrate a little better how to connect the focus on + b, where I connect each focus terminal please.

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Javier Chavez C
hace 5 años

Disconnect the R that feeds + B to the flyback leaving the source free of the horizontal load ....
Connect the bulb to the (+) and (-) terminals of the + B source filter .... This must remain so until the source voltage is recovered and stabilized .... The filament bulb must be According to local AC supply: 100w / 220v or 70w / 110v approximately

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hace 5 años

I did it, but I did not get it to turn on the spotlight, I have no voltage on the C814 filter, I am suspecting that it is at the input of the source since it has two input windings and when measuring voltage in each independent one does not mark voltage, but if I place one end of the tester in one winding and the other in the other if it shows me voltage, it seems that there is only one polarity per primary winding.
pins 1 and 2 have only negative voltage and pins 5 and 7 positive, the optocoupler is ok, proof of some resistors and diodes ok before the primary winding, tomorrow I will continue testing. Thank you.

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Javier Chavez C
hace 5 años

Remember that in this type of standby source the voltage drops by up to 40%. Arriving at its nominal value (115v) to the ON order. .... If there is no + B, mainly just check voltages on each of the pins of the IC810 and check the good condition of the components around them in the primary stage 'the main suspect would be the IC810 .....

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hace 5 años

Thank you very much for your comments, the problem is correct at the moment the IC810 (W6554A) identifies it, where I live it is not possible to get it I will have to wait to be able to bring it or ask for it, as soon as I get it and install it on the TV I will inform how it is progressing the repair, thanks again for the comments since I have also learned many things that I did not know, also if it is possible I will borrow a multimeter with capacitor function since I have the doubt of some, and the one I have does not have that function .

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Javier Chavez C
hace 5 años

Ok, we will be attentive. Luck

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luis tartaglia
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
From here you download the free diagram. https://www.electronica-pt.com/esquema/tv/lg-esquemas-tv/lg-21fj8-chassis-cw81b-18006/
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hace 5 años

Thanks, I'm going to do some tests and get an integrated one that I need IC810 (W6554A), and I'll be commenting on how I'm doing.

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hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Gentlemen, I finally managed to get the original STR W6554A controller, install it, and ready my source could turn on the TV again, I got the error I had in principle (sound only, no image) check the voltage values and they were correct, I read in a forum about solving the Jungle IC in order to improve welds and false contacts, I made it, and a big surprise the TV worked again the image: D: D. I think the source damage was because it seems that I made a short film when testing the components, and that's why I burned the STR W6554A. For some strange reason the horizontal transistor was burned as well, (but before the source damage, "I think") I had already mentioned changing it; the original was the 2SC6090 (without damper) and I replaced it with the 2SC6093 (with damper) I had not noticed that the original did not bring damper, but it still worked, but I have noticed that the TSH heatsink overheats and comparing the data sheet I realized that the one that install supports half the amperage that the original and other things that supports less, in theory I am overloading it, so I decided to leave the TV off until I get a TSH of the same original model to avoid that It overheats and can get short and damage some other component for example. Thank you all for your help, I have learned many things and they will surely help me later.

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