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Lg 42 ld650 I ask for help

alfidor 5
alfidor 5
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hace 5 años
Friends, this device turns on perfectly for 15 seconds and turns off, leaving the LED flashing in red. I suspect that it is protected since the lamps never turn on. The issue is that in the subject of inverter I have no experience of how to measure and where to realize if it is the oscillator or some lamp. The main one is not the problem since it was tested. Attached images of the source. https://adjuntos.yoreparo.com/imagen_post/0005/11/631c2aecb271270b5912a866c9ec14e2d5799066.jpeg" alt="" /> https://adjuntos.yoreparo.com/imagen_post/0005/11/fdfc60f846e4be3aed47e4ea4e5ebf1a20d14efc.jpeg" alt="" />
Ángel Morales
hace 5 años

You say it turns on perfect and then goes off ... but the LEDs don't turn on: Then it doesn't turn on perfect, can you explain yourself better?

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Ángel Morales
hace 5 años

... is it made of lamps or led?

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

It has invert the source plate ....

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Ángel Morales
hace 5 años

Lamps. You need to check the lamps first. Then verify the inverter, but without knowing that the lamps are working correctly you cannot verify the inverter.

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

The lamps never light ...

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Ángel Morales
hace 5 años

For that very reason. If they do not turn on the first thing is to check them. The voltage may be reaching them but if a lamp fails the source shuts down.

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oswaldo lizarraga
hace 5 años

Good morning, these TVs fail a lot in the welds, check the cable and connector that connects the main with the source, it is a classic fault, you turn on the TV and then it turns off that is to say the blue LED is on, it is red and for more that you give power does not want to turn on, the fault is more at the source, verify that the lamps turn on, it is not well understood by saying that it turns everything on and then goes off, and then you say that the lamps never turn on, if you already said that at the beginning it lights everything well, to say never is that from the beginning they do not light at all.

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Ángel Morales
hace 5 años

The most tedious thing is to check the lamps without disassembling them. A tester that exists in the market or "manufacture" one is required. In youtube there are some examples of how to check the lamps. Otherwise, no matter how much the inverter is "good" it will not work and will send information to the source to protect itself and will never turn on.

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I explain myself well again.The TV turns on, either audio, it changes channels but the lamps never turned on, so I suppose that by not turning on the lamps it turns off, it is protected.The source has all the voltages well.The main board was tested on another tv and it works well.

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oswaldo lizarraga
hace 5 años

The only thing you have left is to discard the source module, possibly there is the fault, it is very difficult for the blooming to be misled to put it that way.

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

The oscillator is the BD9270F

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Ángel Morales
hace 5 años

In YouTube there is a method to check the oscillator. A capacitor and a neon bulb are used. If the oscillator works, the light turns on, even for a few seconds. But if not, the defect is in this or an associated component. Greetings and luck.

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Good morning friends, place the R 10k between leg 13 and ground. As a result the TV does not cut after 15 seconds as usual but the lamps still do not turn on.

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Well folks, I thank everyone for the collaboration. The problem was the Mosfet surely on the run. I send you a hug and thank you very much.

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franciscovallarta
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
I must first check that the source generates all the voltages marked in the serigraphy, and that this reaches the pulse of the main inv-on this to activate the source of the lamps. Comment the source part number to upload the diagram.
alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

The source board is PCB-EAX61124203 / 1

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

The oscillator is the BD9270F

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Good morning friends, place the R 10k between leg 13 and ground. As a result the TV does not cut after 15 seconds as usual but the lamps still do not turn on.

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Good morning folks, I found a doubtful mosfet ... is it the K3868 can I replace it with the K3569 ...?

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Franki Lobaina
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Friend disconnects the main, make a bridge with a resistance of 1-47 ohm between stby and put pdim, the source must start even turn on the lamps, if they do not turn on, verify that the inverter is reaching voltage, verify that the inverter's drinks are not are cut in its secondary, check the lamp connectors are not dirty or sulphated, finally change optocoupler that gives the signal to start the power supply, if all ok, try to eliminate the protection in the integrated control, you can say the number to explain how to do it, if they still do not turn on, there is nothing left but to lift the display and change the lamps. Comment on progress to continue helping. Greetings and luck
alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I did that but the lamps don't turn on

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Franki Lobaina
hace 5 años

And all the voltages appear? Eliminated the protection?

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I wanted to say that I tested the source with the resistance but the lamps didn't turn on ... I still didn't get to the lamp connectors and the opto coupler changed it without result.

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Franki Lobaina
hace 5 años

Tell me the integrated number

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I'm trying to see the integrated but it's almost impossible to see which one

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

The oscillator is the BD9270F

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Franki Lobaina
hace 5 años

In this integrated protection is removed by pulling a 10 K resistor between pin 13 and gnd

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Good morning friends, place the R 10k between leg 13 and ground. As a result the TV does not cut after 15 seconds as usual but the lamps still do not turn on.

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Franki Lobaina
hace 5 años

If you put the resistance as I explained and only the lamps do not turn on it is because they are bad, you have no other option but to replace them, you can also adapt LED, just put a power supply for them. Regards

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I have doubts ... if a lamp is wrong does not turn on any or would have to appear some light on them ...? and another thing ... let's see if I do it right ... with the R of 10k I put a tip on the leg 13 of the oscillator and the other on GND of the plate .... when I take out the protection it warms up the oscillator

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Franki Lobaina
hace 5 años

Friend that depends on the circuit that the inverter has, and if how you are doing is fine to eliminate protection.

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Good morning folks, I found a doubtful mosfet ... is it the K3868 can I replace it with the K3569 ...?

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
send me the number of ic smd from the first photo to see where to fool the protection
alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

The oscillator is the BD9270F

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

I think it's BD9240 .... on pin 15 of that ic place a resistance of 10 ka earth

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I can't be sure

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

If I do the test, can I burn something?

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

you are not going to burn anything the only thing that can happen that the one who made humito that is the one who is fucking ... the protection is for you to see who is damaged and replaces it either be lamps or transformer there is the culprit

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

And if the integrated is the BD9270F ....? because in another DT-forum post they talked about that plate had the BD9270F

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

ok proceed then

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Good morning friends, place the R 10k between leg 13 and ground. As a result the TV does not cut after 15 seconds as usual but the lamps still do not turn on.

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

damaged lamps you already solved it

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I have no doubt ... if a lamp is wrong does not turn on any or would have to appear some light on them ...? and another thing ... let's see if I do it right ... with the R of 10k I put a tip on the leg 13 of the oscillator and the other on GND of the plate .... when I take out the protection it warms up the oscillator

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

good point .... there is something short .... check the impedance of the transformers that are equal if there is a small alteration fuck the system

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

You tell me how to measure the impedance ...

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

take out the 2 transformers the only ones that are close to the lamp connector with the multimeter on the ohm scale .... you measure and both transformers must give the same reading as both the primary and the secondary

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

Good morning folks, I found a doubtful mosfet ... is it the K3868 can I replace it with the K3569 ...?

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

How about the one you are going to replace is a bit under the amperage but it does the job just to prove that if it starts well and you deliver it, it may come back for the same

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

I will not deliver it just to try .... and then buy the one I replace

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

so is

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sanfalla
sanfalla
1.821
hace 5 años

I'm glad you solved .... you know what you have to do .... another thing is to record the eeprom data and save it in your file so in the future that same model will arrive you have the data of the eeprom to bring it back to life

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
195
hace 5 años

OK friend

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alfidor 5
alfidor 5
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Mosfet K3868 with leaks
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