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Refrigerators

Capillary Selection

Anibal_el_tecnico
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello people, good day, as always thanks for being there. Today I bring you a new query. I changed the engine of a refrigerator, I put it 1/5 +, the refrigerator is 431 liters with a large frezzer, it is a family refrigerator, in the specifications of the motocompressor it indicates the evaporation capacity of the r134a refrigerant. -15 to -32. Centigrade degrees, also change your capillary and filter after cleaning and the corresponding vacuum. My question is: How do I know that I chose the right capillary? How would I select the next capillary that I would have to change? I understand that to achieve that evaporation temperature I depend a lot on the capillary and the amount of refrigerant and at the same time on the condenser that has the refrigerator. The capillary used in this occasion is 2.25 meters and a diameter of 0.8 mm. My question is why I would like to get the best possible evaporation so that the refrigerator can stop and start properly. Thanks since now!
Mimol92
Mimol92
8.033
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good morning, because refrigerators and freezers usually have the built-in capillary (inside the cabinet), you can know the diameter of it, but not the length and there is where the problem is, but there are tables, such as those in the post to What does the lusangor colleague mention where, based on the btu / h of the compressor, you can know what length of capillary to place, however, at first I used to use the table provided by the Embraco brand as a guide, but this table is prepared for a evaporation temperature from -10 to -20 ° C, family refrigerators and freezers usually have evaporation temperatures around -30 ° C to reach temperatures inside the cabinet below -18 ° C (freezer side), and around 2 ° C (refrigerator side), in order to reach these temperatures, the capillary for a 1/5 + compressor is usually between 3.3 and 3 meters of 0.031 inch internal diameter, depending on the btu / h of the compressor ; Personally, from experience and practice, I have prepared my own capillary selection board, as many technicians would have done, as we do not know the data of the original capillary length, the only way is to go to the method of trial and error until reaching the optimum length, for this you must know at first the amount of refrigerant that the equipment carries from the factory, this data is obtained from the technical data sheet of the equipment that will be attached outside the cabinet, or inside of the refrigerator, where the electrical diagram is usually, if you know the amount that it takes from the factory and monitor the amount of refrigerant with a balance or weight at the time of loading, and you place a capillary and reach the initial working pressure to R134a (around 7 psi) by placing less refrigerant than the factory has, it is a sign that we have placed a very short capillary, and if the opposite happens, it reaches If the working pressure is greater than the one established by the manufacturer, it is a sign that we put a very long capillary, as you intervene in this equipment, you will know by the brand and model of the refrigerator, and also based on the compressor capacity in btu / h (cooling capacity), the length of the capillary that you are going to place.
Anibal_el_tecnico
hace 5 años

Great, many data that clarify a lot, I had thought that depending on the evaporator was the question, but for what you explain it is something like a general rule, respect the specifications that the manufacturer recommends to achieve the best possible efficiency of the refrigerant, always respecting the exact load
So if so, I have an error in a refrigerator that I try to repair, I put capillary 0.8 mm and are 2.25 m long and according to what you tell me is too short, engine 1/5 + Could you lower the amount of coolant and get more or less the same evaporation at -30 degrees?

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Anibal_el_tecnico
hace 5 años

Or do I have no choice but to disassemble that capillary and place the corresponding one?

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Mimol92
Mimol92
8.033
hace 5 años

If you remove refrigerant, the evaporation pressure will decrease and with it the evaporation temperature will also, however, the evaporator will work without the amount of liquid that it should have that is not the idea, and the reheating value of the refrigerant gas will be higher and you will notice that the evaporator will not be completely frosty because it lacks refrigerant, but I recommend that you measure the temperature inside the refrigerator, if it is working well then you could leave the 2.25 meters of capillary that you placed without adding , and then when you repair

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Mimol92
Mimol92
8.033
hace 5 años

another refrigerator of the same characteristics, then if I recommend you place it longer, so that the evaporation pressure drops to their respective values; It should be mentioned that when the capillary length is correct, in addition to the refrigerator having its refrigerant amount similar to that specified by the manufacturer, after it cools properly achieving temperatures in the freezer below -18 ° C, the pressure of evaporation will tend to be at 0 psi, and even in vacuum, between 3 and 4 in. of mercury, which is not because it lacks refrigerant, but is evaporating around

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Mimol92
Mimol92
8.033
hace 5 años

the - 30 degrees Celsius.

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Anibal_el_tecnico
hace 5 años

Perfect, lots of data and everything is very clear to me.
The refrigerator was walking two days and barely reached -13.5 degrees in the freezer, its engine cuts by thermal protection every 8 minutes, I clarify that in this occasion the load was not made by weight, I still do not have the tool until within a few days , since I cannot give it to the point and in order not to delay the work anymore I decided to acquire it.
I will try first to put the capillary attached to the return pipe by means of pressure so that the cold that returns helps the condensation of the refrigerant.

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lusangor
lusangor
56.366
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi Read this forum post, where there is good information ........ https: //www.yoreparo.com/es/refrigeracion/refrigeradores/preguntas/1546689/seleccionar-compresor-y-capilar regards
Anibal_el_tecnico
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Second, as the refrigerant is returning very cold, perhaps I can extract a little from the circuit and see if it improves the performance and good of not being so I will extend the capillary the meter that is missing. Thank you very much for such data, I have clarified the matter a lot.
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