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Refrigerators

Is it due to use alcohol in cooling systems?

Christian Peralta
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Greetings companions! As I had already told you, I am getting started in this refrigeration. I recently started repairing my first fridge, but for this I need the help of someone with more experience. One of the things that emphasized me was to use alcohol (I don't remember which one) before loading the refrigerant into the system, warning me that if I didn't use it, the pipe would get clogged at any time. Browsing the web I found this article that warns that using alcohol in a refrigerant circuit is a death statement regarding the compressor What do you think? Is it convenient or not to use alcohol to prevent freezing of the pipes and remove moisture? What amount is used, what alcohol? Thanks in advance.
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello It is not common alcohol for medicinal use, it is a special alcohol (I do not remember which one) I buy it as a dehydrator or dehydrator, It is used for when the system is wet It is not that if you use it you will destroy the compressor, you can use it as long as you do not abuse it and only for extreme cases The compressor supports (I think) up to 1cm³ throughout its life. If you pass you can attack the winding varnish until it gets short In conclusion: To remove moisture is the vacuum pump, not alcohol Never use alcohol preventively, always empty and only empty If there is a case where the vacuum process was not 100% effective and comes to show moisture clogging then you can inject the system and only once up to 1cm³. If possible less better Regards
megatec_megatec
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
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DBH7iK0c5hQAAAAASUVORK5CYIIA [/img] Hi, in this table you have at what room temperature if you perform vacuum and measure it with a vacuum gauge the water evaporates and the vacuum pump takes it out in the form of steam, you will realize that it is in that situation if the vacuum stabilizes for a while and then continue (unless the vacuum pump is not good and does not arrive) if a good vacuum is made and the dehydrator filter is changed it is not necessary to add any alcohol, if you have a good pump but do not reach the vacuum it is because there somewhere where air enters (a small loss) that air contains moisture and the system will always remain with humidity in those cases where the leak is undetectable or inaccessible there are several, products that are injected into the system already loaded and when they recirculate cover those leaks Alcohol is not a good practice. 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Christian Peralta
hace 5 años

megatec_megatec, here it is normal to use the empty car to repair refrigerators. I don't know if this method is very efficient. I am using a 1hp tank compressor but between both cases I see no difference. The pressure gauge drops to 25 in maximum GH, in both cases. I don't know the vacuum gauge, but doesn't the pressure gauge do the same job for me? Now, they tell me that whenever I do a good vacuum and the dehydrator filter is in good condition, there will be no future moisture problem, right?
Thanks for the reply

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megatec_megatec
hace 5 años

The problem of using a compressor to make a vacuum is that you never reach a vacuum layer to evaporate the humidity, so there are vacuum pumps, before here it was also empty with another compressor because we had no chance of buying a vacuum pump, The vacuum gauge is a manometer that has the largest scale below relative zero (atmospheric pressure). A common gauge has a very small scale for vacuum measurement.

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davidefrainrod
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello, Christian, the theme of the alcohol used in the past has always brought controversies, I know by my own evidence that alcohol is extremely destructive for the windings of the motor compressor because it eats the insulating varnish and therefore short compressor, now knowing that, would you use alcohol? I clarified I had the same doubt so I did the test with a compressor seized first if it was mace the windings (they were fine) and immersed it in a can of empty paint with methyl alcohol and I covered it as they spent about 6 months and it was already completely short . I measured it to the months but maybe I have eaten it before so I only use R141 for cleaning and a vacuum pump to get moisture out. I clarify that the ethyl alcohol never tastes and I do not plan to use it just in case of doubt, and that which removes the moisture is a lie, what it does is prevent the humidity or water in the system from freezing at 0 ° C. Hopefully another person from your point of view. Regards comments and values responses. Ethyl alcohol = medicinal alcohol without color Methyl alcohol = industrial alcohol or burning alcohol usually blue-
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

David
It is not the same to immerse a winding in alcohol for 6 months than to apply 1 cm³ of alcohol to a refrigeration system where that cm³ will be mixed with the refrigerant and oil. I have used it with good results, and the compressor has fulfilled its average useful life, it lasted almost 10 years, and I have the very precise data because it was my refrigerator.

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davidefrainrod
hace 5 años

Hello elektomaq if it is true what you say is not the same my test as your experience. Mine is like a case taken to the extreme greetings

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rubensiño
rubensiño
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hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Use tiner for cleaning the common alcohol is harm has a percentage of moisture water luck
friovega63
friovega63
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hace 5 años
Christian Peralta
hace 5 años

This is what I know to apply to remove moisture?

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friovega63
friovega63
11.849
hace 5 años

Hello colleague Cristian, it is the same as the one you are commenting on. They accuse him of evil and harmful but as he has solved problems for us the poor. I've been able to buy my first vacuum pump for more than 26 years, still. I pray that this divine liquor is not lacking in my workshop.

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