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Radiocommunications

Ground planes for VHF ringo antenna

Guanicoe
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi everyone! I am a beginner in the field of VHF radiocommunications and would like to make a query regarding antennas. I have seen that sometimes Ringo antennas sneak into the ground. In fact some of them are marketed with the plans included. My question is what difference does the inclusion or not of grounding planes make in the installation of this type of antennas? I have seen that the planes make a big difference in the 5/8 leak type antennas, but in the ringo? I was reading a lot about theory and concepts related to irradiants, but I can't see the answer for myself. Thank you very much for your time. Regards! Tommy
ricbevi
ricbevi
17.055
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello ... It makes the radiation lobes tend to stick more towards the ground because it is an antenna that places them up and is not where the correspondent is unless you talk to the space station or airplanes. Greetings. Ric. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Help in the terms I explained earlier, improve the signal in places where it was poor. ROE is usually associated with antenna performance when this is not the case. There are excellent antennas that perform a lot but do not adapt perfectly to the 50ohms of the standard and you have to work on the adaptation to place them in the equipment, and that these are not protected or burned. I do not know if it is economically justified but from the point of view of performance at floor level. Remember that antennas are possible / viable solutions to the problem of a type of communication and that there is something that is 100% efficient in all aspects and conditions. I like F23 more than a double Ringo Ranger 5/8. Ric.
Guanicoe
hace 5 años

Hi Ric, thanks for your time. Then I understand that it is the same reason why ground planes should be included in the antennas used in vehicles. He believed that in the ringo the inclusion of ground planes did not contribute much due to the type of polarization of the antenna. I have installed some VHF ringo antennas achieving good results in tx and rx, and keeping the ROE low (<1.5). In your experience, does the inclusion of ground planes for ringo antennas help improve the quality of rx and / or tx?
Of course, more than grateful to your comments.
Cheers,
Tommy

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Guanicoe
hace 5 años

Thank you for your comment Ric. So I understand that when we talk that the planes help to glue the radiation lobes to the ground, is this a function of transmission, or does it also apply to reception?
Thanks again.
Cheers,
Tommy

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ricbevi
ricbevi
17.055
hace 5 años

To everything in general because the antenna is a passive element without real gain, only comparative with the reference pattern and if it improves in some sense the emission, then also the reception of a receiver connected to it. If you prefer it can be the other way around. It may be that due to the requirement of the transmitter some antenna is not suitable to emit but if to receive an example a high power transmitter connected to an antenna that does not support said power but that does not mean that if a transmitter of a suitable power is placed, the quality of reception / transmission will be according ..

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Guanicoe
hace 5 años

More than grateful for your contribution Ric. Regards!

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HECTOR ROLANDO CABRERA LU
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi Tomy, I don't know if this info is useful for you. The ringo antennas are very good. The antenna adjustment according to the frequency that you will use according to the antenna manual. The adjustment is very easy, in the circle of the antenna that you have below you adjust the fifty ohms and voila. As for the radials, the db increases. gain, normally if you don't have these the antenna gives you 5db. and with radials it reaches 7db. as long as you have the original cable that it brings because it has the distance they should carry. Hojala serve you the info.saludos. Hector.
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