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MRF 240 transistor with how much RF is exited at the base

Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
MRF 240 transistor with how much RF is exited at the base Hi friends, I have this line to put together but I need some more information to be sure and not burn the 40W MRF 240 transistor. I would like to know if someone can confirm to me how much power I have to excite at the base. Thank you! from already grateful !!!
flyguille
flyguille
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Weapons circuits without components datasheet? thats weird...

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Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

arme but in datasheet I do not understand the specifications well so I ask if someone who is with this can help me I do not want to burn the transistor this that I do not know well is expensive to burn it so why yes

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Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

I want if with 3w I can burn it or with 1w just that out there is a lot 3w

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Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

how much radio frequency did that enter

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flyguille
flyguille
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let's see some calculations
if the datasheet says, that the collector current can be in DC (continuous) up to 8A, and has a typical gain of 70, it means that the base current must be 8A / 70. Of course that will really depend on which part of the gain curve you are going to make it work, obviously that you are going to make it work just above the cutting current so that at rest there is almost no current, and that at most you will send it up to 8A / 70 = about 114 ma, but calculate a safety margin, I would give it 30%, I would not run it above 80ma at the base.

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flyguille
flyguille
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Of course, the thermal profile in which you use and implement it has a lot to do. In other words, don't leave him naked.

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Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

it does not expire me well from what I see

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flyguille
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PD: I clarify that I haven't practiced analog electronics for a decade, but I remember something.

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Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

It has a good heat sink and cooler I also don't want to spend anything more capable at the entrance I'm asking it wrong

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flyguille
flyguille
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Mr. GOD google, says at https://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/5258/MOTOROLA/MRF240.html, that VEBO cannot pass the 4 volts. And that must be the maximum component of CC + the RF cannot happen that. I think your question would be rather, how much load can I send without burning it, for an environment at 25ºc, it can dissipate up to 100W, of course with a good cooling solution.
Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

in the gain

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Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

I assembled this RF circuit for the first time with this transistor I have as excite it up to 8wats in the input but I can burn it because there is a lot and only need 1wats to work

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Mariano Daniel Lisboa
hace 5 años

I am feeding it with almost 11 volts of power but at the entrance I want to know how many wats this transistor needs to work

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flyguille
flyguille
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When talking about transistors, talking about currents, transistors amplify currents.
I think in the tables I saw that there were examples of 1 2 and 4W, there I looked closely
What you are looking for is Figure 3 on page 3. Tagged as "Output power vs input power". horizontally the power applied to the base, and in vertical the power developed in the collector.
Of course, that table will depend on the correct choice of collector supply voltage. That will depend on the power to develop maximum desired.

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flyguille
flyguille
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In figure 4 it says how much collector voltage, to develop the desired WATTAGE, in the horizontal you have the collector voltage, and in the vertical you have the maximum power you want to develop.

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flyguille
flyguille
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Oh, and remember this .. that you should consider the maximum peak, with respect to the base ... the DC component + the amplitude of the RF at its upper peak (positive peak) .... that gives you an instantaneous value , q multiplied by the gain, would generate the collector current, and the collector current multiplied by the collector voltage results in the developed power.
(BEC + signal value current) * gain = IC * VCC = output W

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flyguille
flyguille
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sorry I put it in English partially.
(IBE + Signal) * gain = IC * VCC = output power.

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ricbevi
ricbevi
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If it does not exceed 4W of excitation everything will be fine. The input power depends (among other things) on the gain of the transistor at the frequency you are going to amplify. This is not constant and increases if we lower the frequency and decreases if we rise. The manufacturer says 9dB minimum at 160MHz. If you consider a gain of 10dB, with 4W at the input it will give 40W at the output. You must also take into account the loss of the entrance adaptation system so 4W will not reach the base and not burn it. Greetings. Ric. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ------- The vast majority of the necessary data is in the data sheet, not only must be cited but also read. From to sheet Nº: 3
flyguille
flyguille
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decibels is a logarithmic measure, if the theory in my head does not fail me, each decibel point means that the amplitude is twice that of the previous decibel.
Example
If 1db = original signal
then 2db = double
then 3db = the quadruple
... 4db = 8 times
... 5db = 16 times
... 6db = 32 times
... 7db = 64 times
... 8db = 128 times
... 9db = 256 times
and thus, it is a unit of logarithmic and nonlinear measurement.
Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong ...
Therefore speaking in terms of DB is not as simple as multiplication.
And of course the limit will be the VCC saturation

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