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Where to look for old planes of gas route change (Metrogas)

sniperkiwi
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Dear, how are you doing? I clarify that I am a private user, but I am trying to solve a problem for myself and my neighbors. The gas supply was suspended months ago, the works are already completed and we are in the inspection phase of the units. The problem with mine (and many others) is that there is a change in the route that was made in a previous work, about 15 years ago. About rained, wet: those plans were made and presented at the time, but the current administration says not to have a copy of them. The solution they can think of is to perform them again, with the possibility of having to expose internal pipes in the departments ... which would be expensive, uncomfortable and would further delay the rehabilitation. The question I ask myself is the following: is there where to look to recover these plans? If they were ever presented both Metrogas and possibly Enargas should have a copy. How can I do to find out and / or request them? I communicate with you to get some idea because our administration is frankly inoperative and the registered gasist who performs the work does not seem completely reliable (for him it is better to continue being able to invoice for new jobs). Of course, any information you can give me will be welcome. Regards, Victory
Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello What is valid is the last work carried out and the tightness test of the installation. Along with the work, a presentation of the installation made by the registered gasist must be made If metrogas has no previous presentation copy, how do you know there was a change of route? Clarify the situation a little more. Regards
sniperkiwi
hace 5 años

I understand the point, Ricardo. He knows that there was a change of route because my laundry (and that of other neighbors, obviously) give an air and light, and he could see the external pipes that were made to replace those that in the previous work had lost. What the inspector asked is to see the plans of that moment. By not having them, he said we were going to have to perform new ones and do a new inspection.

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 5 años

Mmmmmm .... I think he is looking for some weights. Metrogas has to have the previous presentation, so should the administration. On the other hand, if the exterior is a regulation (in terms of material, supports, etc.) it is an accomplished fact.
Wait for other opinions.

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Calemdq
Calemdq
23.097
hace 5 años

You can present a note intimacy to the company to submit a copy of the plans that are in their files, under warning of complaint in Enargas and in criminal and correctional justice to request the search of their offices, it is a bit violent but it is the only way that will loosen

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sniperkiwi
hace 5 años

Thanks for the answers. We know that they were presented because a neighbor who was part of the commission at that time accredits him. But the plans are not because we had a change of administration in very bad terms and many documents disappeared or were lost. ´
The idea of presenting a note is interesting, but we should be able to provide concrete data and that can be difficult. As I said, this was many years ago and there are few people in the building that was and can collaborate.

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 5 años

Hi. The documentation lost by the previous administration is more difficult to recover than getting the plans in the gas company, any alternative should be judicial, otherwise they will not give you an answer. You would have to raise the situation with the company and see if they can make things easier for you to not get older. Mind you, the current administration is as responsible as the previous one for not requesting the delivery of all documentation under the warning of the law.

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Instalarmen
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
I'm not contributing to this but I tell you a similar situation ... By 2002 I did not have natural gas and it passed through the corner and along the sidewalk in front. The one on the sidewalk in front (it is an avenue) was never going to cross me because of the work that I demanded, and next to it I have some shops and departments (all of the same owner) that warned me that he was not interested in gas (a miserable that I knew he would benefit from the work I did and in fact he did). I made the work and brought the gas from the corner (it will be almost 60 meters). The plans were presented, all in order and the gas was enabled. A couple of years later, for a matter of succession I will change ownership to Metrogas and the company's response is that there is no ownership to change because "I do not have gas because gas passes through the sidewalk in front." The plans were never updated / appeared. The installation is legal and from the first day they charge me with Meter No., Route, etc. but for them "the gas passes through the path in front". This is clearly anecdotal but graphs the lack of control that affects you ...
sniperkiwi
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello everyone, I leave this for future reference and that we can close the issue, since I managed to solve it. I went on my own to Metrogas. It turned out to be a fairly simple procedure. They keep a copy of the plans for 10 years, so if the work we are looking for is within that age range you can request one. On the other hand (this is what I did) if that work of change of route was already approved in the past, it is enough to know the file number of the file and the date of completion to inform it when the enrollee submits the form 3.4. At the time of inspection, the inspector may request it again. But that's it, you don't need to see the physical plans if you can send them to an approved work. Finally, there was no need to prove ownership of the service, ownership of the department, anything. With going and asking for the file number of a certain address, it reaches. Regards.
pablogroenlandia
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good, how are you? I am in the same problem. I live in a building in the 60s approximately and I have to report a change of route on the original gas plane. This plan does not exist in the consortium, nobody in the building ever saw it. I wanted to know if Metrogas has a flat file where you can remove a copy as Aysa does. Thank you!
Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 5 años

Hi. The answer is in the accepted solution. Regards

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sniperkiwi
hace 5 años

Hi, Pablo. As Ricardo says, hit a read on the "accepted solution", there I explained. I clarify that the place to be attended is the technical direction of Metrogas, which is in Barracas (Jovellanos 922). I hope you're lucky with that.
Regards,
Victory

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pablogroenlandia
hace 5 años

Thanks but I need someone who can make me the new plans and I'm not finding
Regards!

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