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How to check if the galvanized shower pipe is clogged?

coldd
coldd
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:) Hi, how can you check that? the water does not come out completely from the flower of the shower It comes out, but by the shins it comes out better
Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
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hace 6 años
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Hello coldd Do you have tape passes cable? Take the pipe from the flower and send the tape from top to bottom (otherwise it will be impossible) will give you an idea of the conditions of that pipe. After moving the tape for a little while, I opened the shower and if it comes out dirty it is because the spout is full of tartar, if you can not put the tape .... you already have the answer. Regards
coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Hi Ricardo ,
They told me in a sanitary that once these galvanized pipes are with tartar and are covered
there is no solution
It is true?

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 6 años

Yes, they haven't lied to you

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

for sevimat:
The low faucets you decide are those of the sink and kitchen? the answer is yes
there goes well
to turn on the heater with the shower and turn it on well I need a little water
opening another hot tap

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Hi Ricardo, that the cable gland passes, it will surely happen because water comes out of the flower only
that is missing a little
that I have to do?

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
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hace 6 años

Did you pass the tape? if you did not do it and move it a little inside the pipe, then open the shower without the flower and see if dirt comes out. DON'T BE VAGO ... GIVE IT AND COMMENT THAT IT CAME OUT.

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 6 años

The water passes through a crack, so that: water comes out does not mean that it is not clogged or semi clogged. Putting the tape, making it turn and raise and lower it will take off some tartar. But I broke and put new. Regards

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Hello Ricardo, it is not laziness but I had stuck the cane that did not curl well on the elbow
with gas thread sealant and I didn't want to spoil that
that besides the little water comes out the baton is mesalia, but now it is well attached hehe

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
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hace 6 años

And so? How we do? take an x-ray to the wall !! I don't understand ... I swear I don't understand. Ready theme finished for me. Greetings and luck.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

for Ricardo don't hurry, I already understood you
I am going to do what is below in the post said servimat:
"Cut the water, remove the stems so that the cane is emptied, place the stems again and fill the cane with vinegar by the shower. You can do it by placing an MH elbow of ½" facing up. Leave all night on and the next morning open both waters to the fullest. This will expel any remaining tartar that exists. "

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 6 años

Look, I'm going to explain one thing to you: Galvanized pipes are on the outside, that's why they bite from the inside, if you loosen that tartar a lot you will most likely have moisture in the wall. the remedy ends up being worse than the disease. A chopped galvanized pipe is insurmountable, it can be improved for a while depending on how it is .... but I would think about its replacement. Luck.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Hi Ricardo, in the end I changed the cane for one of thermofusion, the rain on the flower improved a lot, but
still not turn on the heater completely
servimat tells me that it would be good to change the whole pipe
But what part of the pipe? The one that goes down from the tank to the water heater? The other faucets light the heater well, just
the one in the shower doesn't make it

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 6 años

Before changing any pipes I would make sure that the serpentine is well and really clean, then I would cut the gas, disassemble the diaphragm with the gas valve included, I would lubricate the needle well with their respective o'rings, and I would make sure that its operation is good soft. Then I would try again. Regards.
Pd: what do you think if you are closing some issues that have already been solved?

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servimat1
servimat1
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hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hi. Remove the flower from the shower and its spout. Many times the flower holes are covered and if the installation is old, the rising pipe from the mixer is usually covered. Regards
coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Of course servimat is what I have been told, the flower has already changed, that is not the problem
I consulted you rather
"If there is a method to check if the galvanized pipe is clogged" is there?
I'm not sure if the pipe had been placed in 1987 or if it was already built
the house in 1950
Regards

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servimat1
servimat1
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hace 6 años

Is the faucet mixer? If so, does it work well by the low faucet?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Hello
it turns out that years ago I pulled the peak of the mixer so we can't deduce from that side
Is there another method?

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mariotti luis marcos
hace 6 años

hello: if the game has transfer take it out and check it is rare that the shower vaston is clogged, you can blow the pipes with a compressor greetings

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hi mariotti
It has a Piazza mixer with hot and cold water, I picked it up and I have pottery there now
Do you say it's weird that the shower stick is covered? ., but the cane that comes out of the wall is not the problem is new
the problem would be the galvanized pipe embedded in the wall where the water rises to the flower

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

Cut the water, remove the stems so that the cane is emptied, place the stems again and fill the cane with vinegar by the shower. You can do it by placing an MH elbow of ½ "facing up. Leave on overnight and open both waters to the fullest the next morning. This will expel any remaining tartar that exists.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat, is the cane not the arm that goes up there where the flower goes?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Your idea is optimal servimat
i will do that

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

I told you about removing the stems since you don't have a low tap to empty the 1 mt stretch from the faucet to the shower flower.

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Calemdq
Calemdq
23.097
hace 6 años

Hello Coldd, do what the friend Servimat suggests, with vinegar you have to improve and loosen it, I do it professionally with the recirculating pump in an hour is perfect, do not use acid because you can sweep material from the pipe, the vinegar only attacks the tartar, regards!

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello heating, I understand I will do what servimat said
here they sell a bronze arm for the flower that ridiculously bears fine thread and loosens very easily
hehe, I glued it to the elbow of the cane, it was very firm, so that it threads threads of epoxy pipes for gas, lithortigio (that yellow powder) + the liquid,
I just wanted to make sure before I took my arm off the cane
Did you see how it is?
anything happens for example in windows and they already advise you to format it and sometimes
it's a simplicity to fix the problem
Regards

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

yes heating, we were already on the topic of that recirculating pump
I already assembled the system in the water heater, it would be used with a peripheral pump
I have not put this job into practice yet.
Here is a photo of the TEE that I added to the water heater:
https://ibb.co/joLJFK

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat
I was busy on an issue on the sidewalk
I clarify that the shower mixer had not only taken its beak years ago
but also the middle mixed handle, leaving only the handle of the middle
cold water and hot water
If I cut the water, I take out a single stem, won't it be enough to empty the cane?

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

If there are not problems.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

at 9:00 pm I removed the arm, the fine thread adapter and put about half a liter of vinegar from a curled elbow
up there just that the hot water rod seems to drip something
then in the morning I open the water again
until then

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello, there was no positive result, the trickle of water still comes out of the shower with little
water amount. Last night, some dirty water had just come out,
but this morning, it was clean
Is the cane spout or will the mixer be the problem?
regards

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servimat1
servimat1
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hace 6 años

If you remove the stem (s), does the water come out well?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

if servimat, last night I pulled the hot water stem and the water came out

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

ahhh, did you decide to make a comparison of how much water comes out of the stem and how much of the flower?
I'm going to try that

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

servimat,
I have removed the hot water rod from the shower without cutting off the water
and by the rod the water comes out with everything, and turns on the heater perfectly
Look, I've been told that tartar once formed in galvanized pipes
it doesn't come out anymore, is this true?
Either it is the cane that is somewhat clogged or there is a problem with the mixer
what do you think?
regards

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

Impossible to know without seeing the mixer. Even seeing it, one could not know if there is an obstruction in the mixer. Ideally, you replace the climbing pole with a plastic one.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

and then if little water continues to come out, you have to change the mixer
I had already commented once the service that could have a problem with mixing, but another question
and it was that little water came out sometimes, so I had done it, I was to take out the beak, then seal the selector tap
for the peak or for the shower, leaving only the cold water tap and the hot water tap
I had solved that problem well enough
It's a Piazza mixer, it's old, they put it in 1977, it's bronze
If I have to change 1st I have to break ceramic and 2nd

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I doubt how to unscrew the mixer and how to screw the new mixer again

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hehe, searching the internet, a temofusion pipe that I have heated it a little with a gun
and I screwed it into a female epoxy elbow fitted in a walrus and made a thread,
then you would put the hydro3 and this has to look good

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

if the water comes out of the shower
here the photo:
But without the help of opening another tap, the water heater does not start at all, sometimes it does not start
As you will see water comes out but not enough
What do you think
https://ibb.co/chgXkK

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat
I took 4 ceramics
Here picture of the stuffed cane something old man, right? https://ibb.co/dRTPFK
How do you advise me to remove it from inside the wall and then unscrew it from the mixer?
Regards

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

Heats the joint or thread between the mixer and the pipe. If you release it well from mixing, it will come out. Do this test before changing the mixer.

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

What if, if you're going to use a green pipe, don't heat it. Cut the exact size and in any hardware store for two pesos or nothing they will make the threads with tap. Otherwise, buy a brown pipe with the threads already made.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hee hee, servimat 2 pesos? less than 50 pesos or start talking, besides here nobody does that
Here I send you the photo of a heat pipe that I heated with a gun a little and I made a thread by curling the pipe inside an epoxy elbow look: what's wrong with this thread if you screw it into an elbow of those reddish? https://ibb.co/jXCyQK

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

you left me with the ball itching with that of not heating the green pipe, what is the problem servimat?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

To remove the pipe it is not appropriate to cut it first near the mixer and thus be able to unscrew it more
comfortably and the rest of the pipe shake it a little so it comes out?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

https://ibb.co/nBn4FK

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

It was not not to heat the pipe but it would not be the right way to make a thread. You don't know anyone who can make you two threads or a thread and a fusion in the elbow? I see the thread steaks shallow.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Take out all the mixture around the pipe about 20 cm next to the mixer
it's quite rusty what do i do?
Did I cut the pipe about 40 cm from the mixer and try to unscrew it
with a stilson?

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servimat1
servimat1
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hace 6 años

Yes, do this but heat the joint between the faucet and the pipe because if it is very hard the bronze can break.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I had in mind to start by putting a little WD-40 because my heat gun is 1500 Watts
other times I failed to unscrew threads using this gun
Do I put WD-40 and let it absorb well for a day?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I put WD-40 on the board, better than with a stilson, isn't it better to unscrew the pipe by holding it with a parrot's beak?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I pulled the pipe up from the cut, but the board failed to unscrew it with the gun so I am throwing WD-40
to the board will you achieve this?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I continue with the WD-40 will finally release this thread from the spout to the mixer with the WD-40?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

here is the pipe that is left, they are about 25 cm long and the green arrow is pointing to the board
https://ibb.co/nycwEe

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

As if not to break the mixer, the best is heat. Keep insisting with the gun.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat
heh, you sent me the gun 2 or 3 times, but in the end what solves the problem is the torch
With 1 minute of fire, I then called an acquaintance who works with gas and tomorrow said he came with the little bottle.
Maybe half joke told me but that the gun is used to spend light.
and the WD-40 to remove screws.
By the way I tell you how I saw the mouth open on the piece of pipe that is still on the board
It's hollow with nothing stuck inside at least in that little space I saw
Regards

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I moved hydro3 to my little house thread in the green pipe je je
and when I get the spout my acquaintance, the green spout would already be with the thread
ready to screw it in the mixer.
In the case that the same small amount of water continues to flow out of the shower
What would be the next step?

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

If the water comes out well with the stems, with flow and pressure the problem would be in the pipe or in the same mixer. Once you remove the pipe you will see the problem. Run the water at that time to check if it goes well.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

If I served this morning, I was looking in the open market, a mixer without transfer, there was a B2P Newport Plus PV
The arm, the flower of shower and the bells are of chromed ABS so it is a matter of changing only these of ABS for some of bronze
The price is 2000 pesos, it is in price, maybe the 2 bells of my Piazza are in the VF rod, right?

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

They may work but if they are different brands and ages they may not adapt. There are complete PV models that work very well and are of quality, for example FV Arizona.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat, I saw it just on the FV page this arizona Plus 0109 / B1P Do you decide that the bells and arm are also bronze? And what is better quality than the Newport Plus? The exploded view on the PV page does not clarify that detail

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

Both are PV so they are of good quality. What varies a bit is the amount of liters / minute they let in. For example, to make the Arizona FV cheaper, it did not lower its quality but it comes without the broad curve of the mixer (for the low tap) and the mixer is not with a stem but with a transfer to a plug but it works very well.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Hi servimat, I just called a dealer here and he tells me the Arizona Plus is cheaper than the Newport Plus
also no model have the bells in bronze
Regards

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

Bronze bells and none. Are very expensive. All are chrome plastics. Indeed, Arizona is cheaper than New Port.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat me to a game in the laundry that had the flyers and bells of
plastic I sent them to the trash
and in replacement I put 2 pieces of brass spout for the 2 bells
and for the flyers 2 square bars
It can be purchased by measure in houses selling metal
You will really save some pesos
Very nice square bars for steering wheel.
And in a new bathtub I did the same
That's not a problem
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* The boy with the torch has been in bed since yesterday so he didn't come

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I do not want to wet the wall much where the cut pipe is, because otherwise we are in conditions
to open the hot water tap and try to see if the mixer is the problem of low water

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

servimat why is "Newport Plus" better than "B1P Arizona Plus"?
Is it because the steering wheel of Arizona is not bronze?

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servimat1
servimat1
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hace 6 años

It must be bronze or chrome plated brass. New Port has a little more flow.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat
that's good, the flow rate, as my well-known gasist is sick,
I want to buy the
Welding Flambetor Torch + Butane Gas Cartridge $ 251
I would put the board on fire for a minute and then with a
parrot bite unscrewed the spout
I'm fine?

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

Yeah that's right. Do not give much heat especially to the bronze as it becomes brittle and can break. The little bottles you mention are very useful, but they don't work with the torch down, always horizontal or up.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat
They just answered me about PV that I asked them about some model with more flow than the Newport Plus and they replied that the flow is the same for both models, because they have the same heads.
That was because I mentioned the Arizona, According to them the Arizona Plus and the Newport Plus have the same flow.
The gasista I know is still sick. regards

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

servimat, good day, the seller of the Flagas Brogas tells me that it can be used in any way
and it turns on manually
Look, there are some flamblers that don't work, yesterday a hardware store had one that didn't want to sell me
because it doesn't work, of course he's an acquaintance of mine from years ago.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

and those of PV told me that all their models are for 1/2 and that if I wanted more flow
of water in the shower place 2 3/4 stopcocks.
but they didn't tell me where to put it, so I guess they don't know that I already have
An installation made.
The gasist I know today will surely come

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

Comment on how you solved the problem.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

hello servimat
The thing is like that, the gas came out the rusty pipe
I passed a wire from the hole of the mixer that goes to the shower to the hot water rod
When you open the hot water letting it out through the hole of the mixer that goes the shower, the heater turns on perfectly
but when I screwed his cane I already have the problem again, the water heater just turns on
Is it the pressure?
I comment that the water tank is at the recommended height
what is there to do?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I just put the flower in the green pipe and I notice that it comes out much better than before the rain, it comes out even and complete but ,,,,,,, ???? this water lacks pressure to turn on the water heater completely, everything seems to indicate that it is the pressure what do you think?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

The drain pipe from the tank to the water heater is not lead, but is galvanized, could it be covered?

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

It may also be covered with tartar. The issue is that if it worked well before there is a widespread problem in the pipes. The solution would be to change the entire pipe or place a pressurizing pump at the exit of the tank.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

servimat, I never said it was good before.
as long as I remember for many years
(before 2000 there was a hot water tank) always in the shower the water was half loose
Now with the green pipe that I put the shower rain comes out quite well for the flower
When you decide to change the entire pipe
Do you mean change the pipe that goes from the water tank to the entrance of the water heater?

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

servimat hello
I had already told you that I have my doubts that with changing that galvanized pipe
about 8 meters of travel from the tank to the water heater was going to solve the shower problem
Is it sure it will solve the problem?
Regards

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años

I can't assure you anything since I'm not in the place. There would be no feasible way to assure you about it.

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

Hi servimat, I sent you the photos, you've seen the place. Being here you won't be able to get inside the pipes either hehe
Here 2 photos where on the terrace with red arrow I indicate where the water pipe has in elbow to go down to the water heater and
in the other photo I show the route of this descent that as you will see there are 2 other 2 elbows
https://ibb.co/mQiKRp https://ibb.co/da5Ymp

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coldd
coldd
136
hace 6 años

I shouldn't have much mystery, maybe if you could give me some advice on what the ideal route would be
for the placement of the new green pipe. Greeting

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