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Tank filling from network

EugenioG
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Good day. I would be grateful if you could tell me what "system", and what type of pump suits me to give the best possible solution for the following situation in a building with 4 floors and 30 and peak departments: - There is a 2000 liter tank buried, with its filling pipe at ground level, supplied directly from the network. - On the roof there is a 10,000 liter tank. - The water lift is done by means of a 1.5HP centrifugal pump (there is a backup). The bottleneck of the entire system is at the filling speed ("recovery") of the tank ... how can I make the tank fill faster, being that it is supplied directly from the network? I am not a specialist in the subject, and beyond having read a little and see for example that a self-priming pump would be a good option, I turn to your knowledge and experience to see that they recommend me. It happens that for some reason the upper tank has been completely emptied (presumably cut off of the water and / or electricity supply), and then although it goes up some of the upper tank, it was never possible to recover 100%, and a " buckle "where when a little water rises to the upper tank, it is consumed very quickly. I understand there may be a certain "psychosis" of people in which water does not appear, everyone uses it (washing clothes, showering, reserving water "just in case"), and it may even happen that there are those who may have left taps open " to see when the water returns ", and if they are not at home when water appears, it is a continuous and unnecessary emptying of the upper tank ... and for all the above, it is not possible to recover the level ... Obviously, once the upper tank level has been recovered, all the pipes will have to be purged well, to avoid problems, right? Awaiting your comments. Thank you.
Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hi EugenioG Unfortunately, the only alternative would be to put a larger cistern, the other is to make users aware by placing notes on the bearings. The suction of the network with pump is prohibited, you would leave the rest of the users without supply and on the other hand in case of cutting the network surely the pump would burn. A possible alternative is to regulate the upper float so that it asks for water faster, do not wait until the upper tank is in the middle to raise water, perhaps never in time to fill the tank. The tank has 2000 liters and a little has to be at the bottom, when the upper tank reaches that level (2000 liters less) the pump should already be raising water. He will work more times but for shorter periods. Regards
EugenioG
hace 6 años

OK, thanks for the input.
Anyway, increase the size of the tank I do not see where it has the benefit, because if I have the problem at the speed at which the tank is filled, accumulating more water is not the solution, because the delay in filling the tank more large will increase linearly ....
If it seems right to me to verify the regulation of the upper float, so that it asks for water when the “useful” liters that the cistern has been consumed from the upper tank, starting from “full tank”.
Thank you!

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 6 años

Your question is "how can I make the tank fill faster, being that it is supplied directly from the network?" and that is directly related to the supply, perhaps asking for a larger entrance and changing the pipe to have more flow but ... 2000 liters for thirty-odd families is little (that's why the suggestion to put larger) I think what It is better to keep the tank as close as possible, although the tank is still small to my mind. Regards

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EugenioG
hace 6 años

Perfect, understood

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MJGTSAS
MJGTSAS
4.613
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
The solution is not very complicated, you must regulate the top tank filling system that begins when the level drops, suppose 5% of the capacity, the only thing you will notice is that the pump is running very shortly but several times what you achieve is that with low consumption the top tank refill begins.
EugenioG
hace 6 años

It's something we're going to face, thanks

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hi. We were touched in a building with the same problem. Girl cistern and many departments. The only solution was (by consortium note) to change the water inlet pipe of the network. When placing one of 2 "the problem is over. Possibly it has a small diameter entrance from the general pipe, not the one you turn inside but the one of the general cutting key of the company. As the consortiums do not pay measured water but per m², they will have to pay the work, the breakage of the path and a couple of permits but it is a definitive and completely legal solution.
EugenioG
hace 6 años

Thank you very much for sharing your experience, it helps us to know where to give an envy to the solution.

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