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Household Electricity
Outdoor wall installation
116
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good!
I am carrying cables from a house to the barbecue (I have to take 5, as detailed in the drawing).
The specific questions are:
- How far from the floor are the inspection boxes (waterproof), for humidity more than anything.
- The wall is 12 cm, with pilots, and I plan to "eat" only the surface for the pipes, I estimate that they will be 15 cm wide (eat something like 3 cm), will this weaken the wall? only where the boxes go I think chop up to 8 cm
- I want to pass the pipes in parallel, not like the 10x10x10 boxes that pass them one behind the other. There is a problem with that?
- I found some waterproof boxes for outdoor security cameras type "balun", are those suitable?
- The watertight box I saw is 15cm high, and I have to pass 5 1-inch pipes (so I don't have any space problems in the future), will it work?
- What separation between spout and spout must have the box to avoid interference problems?
- From box to box there is a distance of 17 meters, I don't think it's a problem, since the cable gland has 20. Is this correct?
Any suggestions more than welcome!
17.232
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi
I tell you how I usually do in the case you describe; Five pipes is excessive and dangerous to be marked, as well as unnecessary.
The material of the box may vary according to need and type of low voltage signal you need. In the case of home installation, when in long runs we have PASSENGER BOXES, we can use a single one with an internal metal partition ALWAYS THERE ARE NO SPLITS IN THAT box.
In the example, place distribution boxes between the two, but it is merely illustrative.
116
hace 5 años
Clear! These are just step boxes, I will not do splices. Could you explain to me about the separators? I never saw them
Why do you say that the 5 pipes is excessive? Could the same pipe be shared for any of these services (catv, telephone, alarm, doorbell) with electricity or something like that?
17.232
hace 5 años
Hi.
Alarm, cable, telephone, doorman, internet share pipe. The separators is a thin sheet that divides the box, this to avoid putting two boxes (it is better that it is metallic to avoid interference). The interference in these cases is of exception, in certain goalkeepers, the rest is unlikely, in any case use separate pipes, as appropriate.
Be careful when stamping the wall of fifteen, especially if it is not revoked on both sides, there is a certain danger of damage to the opposite side.
You can follow Ricardo's advice. Cheers
116
hace 5 años
Perhaps it would be best to do it on the outside, without stinging the wall, with staples. I could do it with 5 pipes there so that they are separated and above I could revoke it later. Do you think it would be optimal and safe?
116
hace 5 años
The metal separators, do you manufacture them and come? I couldn't find those online. Do you have any photo or link? How do you grab them in the box?
17.232
hace 5 años
Nothing to do Ricardo, a piece of aluminum in the form of "u" that divides the box, is more, sometimes I have left them loose (in case of weak signals or with danger of interference).
If it's alarm or TV, I don't even use a metal separator, with a hard plastic I divide the box.
The issue of interference is not critical in home installations.
If there are joints, consider sharing boxes.
On the other hand, for aesthetics, if you fill a house with boxes the owners will not allow it (some architects either) and then tell about regulations.
Cheers
116
hace 5 años
very good advice! It is my house, and the truth is that I filled it with inspection boxes according to the regulations, thanks to excellent advice like the ones you gave me several times!
5.181
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi.
I would not mark the pilots and less on a wall of 12cm (unless it is a partition and there is crockery above). If it is a party, as I suppose, I would not cut the wall (it will be very weak) Particularly I would do everything outside (very neat of course)
There are all kinds of boxes, pipes and anchors for that job.
Of course, respecting the indications of colleagues (greetings) regarding the separation of lines to avoid interference and comply with regulatory guidelines.
Cheers
116
hace 5 años
Of course, I was thinking of doing it with staples and putting the pipes out. Then I can roll up and it would look great! Do you think that would look good? I want the best of the truth to be left
5.181
hace 5 años
Well, it is what I would do and for the previous comments, both of nastor and elektomaq (who have it very clear) I think it is the most successful. Greetings and if you want you can upload a photo of the finished work.
5.181
hace 5 años
It does not necessarily have to be revoked, I have seen very neat work abroad. Cheers
116
hace 5 años
Great! that wall is not revoked yet and I want to put stone in the future, porahi if I put 1-inch pipes, the plaster is fatter but as it goes with stone it would not be so much drama since I can keep the level. Do you decide to complicate later with the plaster and stone?
5.181
hace 5 años
I would not know how to tell you, but I kept in mind that the stone is irregular and therefore of different thicknesses, but that you can see at the time of doing it. Calculate that the 1 "pipe is 2.5cm thick, just there you would be covering the pipe, plus the thickness of the stone. It should be seen, there is also the possibility of drawing the plaster imitating different coatings, they even sell the molds according to whatever you want, in short, what you can do is very broad, you have to evaluate everything and then decide, you can also reduce the size of the pipes and add another one to distribute.
116
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good!
Sorry for the delay everyone ... I was really busy.
I leave the solution clean, with all the advice they gave me, so if someone else has the same problem you can see it.
Problem: I have a 12cm wall, with pilotines and I want to pass 5 1-inch pipes.
Solution: Use boxes of 20cm or more, put the pipes of 1 inch in parallel, and boxes every 10 meters (in my case they go 3 boxes).
Boxes and pipes: walled with screws and clips that have the pipes.
Height. 60 cm from the floor
Considerations: use U-shaped profiles to separate the cables and in those boxes there can be no splices.
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