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Household Electricity

Two live on the plug

Alejandrorocandio2015
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good morning .. I am from Argentina. Yesterday I was changing some cables that melted me for not being of the proper section (house of the 60s). Change in the mouth of the kitchen light ceiling the cables to some sockets of the extractor and kitchen light. My problem is that when I turn up the thermal, nothing suits me. Only two live poles catch me on the jacks. Surely I cut the neutral when I cut the wires in the mouth of the kitchen. What I do not understand is that from that roof mouth there are two cables for the dining room (and from there they follow a few rooms). One comes directly from the thermal phase cable, and the other that would have to be the neutral, marks me that I have phase too (the cable is open). In the mouth of the ceiling light I have identified two phases and two neutral. The two neutrals come from the same therma (I need those neutrals to connect them to the rest of the kitchen. If there is something wrongly explained, tell me and I correct. Thank you
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello to avoid making any kind of mistake it is best to start on the board with the two wires to change and move towards the end first the trunk line and then one by one all the descents What I mean is that you don't do it in sections or in a messy way It is important to follow a color code and not mix colors ... if I lack brown and I have blue left over I do not use blue instead of brown, I go and buy the missing brown it would take a third protection cable (ground) green with yellow but it does not work or fail The recommended colors are: brown phase light blue neutral green earth with yellow returns another color other than white example the installations are made by whole sections without cuts these tips will ensure success now if you have live in both poles it may be for 1- neutral cut .. the phase passes the loads and returns through the cable 2- induction .... the phase induces a voltage on a conductor, for this the induced conductor must not have any connection to anything evidently you did not follow an order when you made the changes and at some point you did not connect the neutral however it could have been opened inside or before the board due to the short circuits suffered connect and check the thermal to see if there is the neutral. If there is no neutral if there are other thermal or differential before reaching the first thermal where you will measure the entrance of the same If there continues the problem you should call the company regards
Alejandrorocandio2015
hace 5 años

The neutral is. In the mouth of the kitchen ceiling light comes the neutral and phase. As I said that the trunk cables continue to the dining room, but I have both alive .. unless the neutral comes through the mouths of the wall. As I say, it is an old facility and is not well armed. Able for the neuro to go through the mouth where the extraction is, since several pipes come out .. Just try to give these cables neutral and nothing. I will continue testing

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

How do you know that it is neutral?
What test did you do to draw that conclusion?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Neutral and phase must go together through the same channeling. It is forbidden to pass the phase on one side and the neutral on the other side

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Alejandrorocandio2015
hace 5 años

It is neutral because I measured it with the tester and followed the color along the pipe. Always this installation, always the keys cut by neutral instead of phase. What I am going to do is take advantage and change all the cables from this sector towards the thermal one with the respective colors and section. Since it is made of the 60s and poorly planned. What brands of cables do you recommend? And when I don't like the cables with the cable gland, I put talc, gel, wd40? Thank you

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Ok ... it's the best option
Brands I can recommend prysmian, imsa, argenplas, MH or kalop are the ones that dominate the market
Avoid brands offered online at half price, they are a scam
To lubricate some talcum powder

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