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Household Electricity

Neutral "not connected" to the thermal Sica with voltage

ale082000
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello everyone: the following happens to me, I have a sectional thermal where cables come to another thermal in the back of the house (to note that to go forward) from this thermal that of the bottom provisionally I took line for a break in a room, where everything well (the pole seeker marks in the phase, and the neutral does not) and from the same thermal I took another line for other shots of the next piece, in this piece I marked the phase and neutral voltage tracker ... I thought that the neutral wire was broken, and I took it out, but it was fine, it was new. Then I left only the phase cable connected to the thermal, that makes a journey of about 5 meters and goes to 3 boxes of double sockets (than those 3 boxes if they have the phase and neutral) but from the thermal to the 1st box of sockets I repeat there is only 1 phase cable, because I took out the neutral one, so when I give power, in the 3 sockets there is charge in the neutrals ... I was reading cases around here, and what it can be is that the neutral cable that joins the 3 sockets does as induction, that section is used cable, but its coating is not seen in general, some parts of the plastic worn, but not broken on some sides, and I read from Eletomak that a "cooked" cable can carry tension even if it is neutral. I discarded that in the sockets the cables touch and are well placed, there is no mixture of terminals, I only get that kind of induction ... is there any other reason that can occur? Salludos and thank you very much
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Hello
It would be necessary to see in what context I said it about the cooked cables but obviously it does not apply to a new installation where the conductors are supposed to be new or at least they are in good condition

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Never pass a single conductor through the pipes. If your intention is to take neutral from elsewhere, that would not be correct.

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ale082000
hace 5 años

Thanks for answering guys.
Apparently the neutral cable that communicated the 3 shots was wrong, when I checked it well, now with better light, the places that seemed worn, were like "burned" when I remembered where they came from (and as is provisional what I am doing until past the parties and put in order) were some wires that are inside a corrugated sun exposure, the corrugated for years "cracked" in some places and in those places the sun "burned" the filaments were not seen, but if the cable was rough-dry like elephant skin.

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

With that panorama it is best to use another cable and always phase goes along with neutral

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ale082000
hace 5 años

I connected another cable to test (a new one of 1.5 mm) and there was no load in the sockets, or neutral cable tip, I think that cable was the problem, in the afternoon I will put 2.5mm.
Elektomaq, when I left only the Phase cable, in the "rush" from the thermal of the piece to the junction box for the tap boxes, it was to clear me of doubts that in that section (thermal-junction box) when not being the neutral cable, the problem would be from the section of the neutral cable that communicates the boxes of the 3 sockets, which would then be attached to the neutral cable (which was not) of the "connection"

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ale082000
hace 5 años

I also remember once I rolled a parallel cable, and the neutral one gave voltage in the pager, unrolled it and no longer used any more voltages, I checked it well to see if it was broken, or touching some hair, but no ... it was fine, until now I thought it was induction, and that's why I thought the same thing now.
Again I changed an outlet, with a double key that was good, but the frame was half broken, I put another used one but the frame well, and the neutral of the socket marked me voltage, I changed one socket for another used one and it was already well .. .obviously checking, re-pulling, putting the cables, etc ... and it was the socket

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ale082000
hace 5 años

Hello guys again: I solved the issue of voltage in the neutral, as I said before, I thought they were the wires, but the solution was so silly ... but hey, you learn from mistakes.
It turns out that when I put the wires in the sockets, phase and neutral, to "make faster" the thermal only connected the phase, leaving the neutral unconnected in the thermal, thinking "the charge is the phase, I go with the Buscapolo, I touch the contacts, and the phase must give load, and the neutral does not, whether it is connected, or not "... err that I had almost a day testing and testing, changing cables ...

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi. Develop your query by editing it. Regards
servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 5 años

Hi. There may be induction or if you have connected something in the sockets, the phase returns to the other pole through it. Regards

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ale082000
hace 5 años

I had done a test at noon with another neutral cable, and it seemed solved, at night I connected it, but again to gain seconds of time ... only in the thermal connected the phase, the neutral connected to the sockets, but Not in the thermal. and still giving voltage in the neutral ... I wanted to kill ... then I connect the neutral to the thermal ... and the neutral no longer gave more charge, there already everything was fine, and that was the error, not the wires. .Without leaving the neutral in the thermal plug unconnected, and it seems that the neutral wire inside the pipes was induction despite not being connected to the thermal

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Perfect!! If you have any other problem about this installation, do not hesitate to contact us. You can do it right here although you have clarified it, it is worth mentioning: do not forget to change for 2.50 mm² conductors regards
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