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Household Electricity

DPMS calculation

hernangg2013
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good colleagues of I repair, I find some small doubts in this project that I am doing of a two-story house, I think I did the calculation well, if someone corrects me better, I leave the form attached, Well, if everything I did is fine, would the TP carry ID 40A and AI 32A? and the sectional that of the house would have to put the ground floor the same is divided into two sections Ground floor and the other PB calculation the 8 mouths of IUE are those of outside .. greetings I hope someone gives me a hand thanks
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

It seems to me that it is not right and the picture is a bit confusing
For example
You talk about a two-story house so you need at least two circuits of tug and two of iug
How many rooms are they? 4 ?
If they are 4 bedrooms you cannot have only 3 mouths of TUG and 3 of IUG. If there are 3 in each room, you should multiply by 4
It's all very doubtful
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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

Hello colleague sorry is not being understood, if there are two of tug notice that says tug1 and tug 2 sorry I need to put tug 1 in a box and two is placed in the other, a room is down and if 3 mouths two on each side of the bed and one for tv plus the one of the air apart in tug two are of the 3 bedrooms upstairs is understood and with the iug the same one above and another below is understood?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

There is a painting that says high and another that says medium. What are they?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

One is a plant and another is the other?

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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

yes yes now you are understanding me hehe sorry:)

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Where it says IUE is miscalculated or misclassified
The TEUs are air conditioning?

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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

if it is only air conditioning if what I decided was that I put it as I was because it is the outside lights not if it was ok I had done the calculation as I was but it seemed to me that it was too much what I gave considering the basis of that 500th and there are not so many mouths so I calculate it as iug but in another circuit did I do well?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Do not
If it is ue you must calculate it as ue and if it is ug as ug. The difference between iug and iue is that they are not outside but also that they are outdoors
If they are outside in semi-covered spaces and it is not about power lighting it is considered tug

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

The air conditioning is not TUE

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

The plants are not classified in medium and high, that classification is to assign the degree of electrification and affects the whole house

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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

How do you put the air conditioning circuit then? As tug3 I already marie, well forget that they are high and low floors can you divide the house as I did in two degrees of electrification? to ok then to the outside lights I change them as tug

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

It would be necessary to tell me what power the air is or if it does not have the meters of each environment

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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

There I uploaded a couple of images of how I planted the elecric scheme and it is not that the regulations say that you have a single mouth up to 20A and look at the ground floor air must be 4000 cold-hot refrigerators I thought to put it with thermal 16A 2.5 cable the ones above are smaller because the rooms are not so big.

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Okay. Then I will take it as 4500 frig and the other one of 3000 for the main room and two of 2250 for the remaining
Tomorrow I give you my return

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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

thanks for your time che .. give it because the truth is the first one I get a house like that and well I do not want to screw up ... I try to do my best from now on thank you very much for your contributions

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

There are still several doubts, I think you should rethink the project. You have not taken into account the minimum amount of mouths per environment. The total surface area is not clear and the plans do not help much either
You forgot to calculate the stair light. It is not understood in the plane what the deposit is. The room has 3 lights, are all three fixed?
The iug circuit (PB) has 17 mouths, not 14 so it requires an extra circuit
The distribution of lights is also not the most appropriate. As for the shots, they are very few for that surface

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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

It is good what you raise with respect to the minimum amount of tug mouths according to regulations are 15 per circuit, I will talk to the architect that I have a good time measuring things that I do not have but good without being so structured, I do not know if I give it a light that you tell me is 14 plus 3 of the stairs that I did not want to put them apart because I did not seem to make a circuit for 3 lights more than today are led and do not have the demand for consumption or leaving so much structure and tug are two by mouth do you think few in a garage 4 shots? and in a comedy living 6 shots for so much more '?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

The stairway light is important .. It is not about making a circuit of 14 and another of 3, rearranging you can improve the distribution, perhaps even incorporating one more mouth to obtain a better light distribution and a better visual effect. You can do if there are 17 mouths a circuit with 9 and another with 8 (for example).

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

The shots ... it's not about the number of shots but the number of mouths. A mouth can include up to 4 outlets but beyond the amount of shots, it must cover a certain surface. The purpose is to avoid the use of extensions.

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

Does the bathroom have a socket?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

You have to keep in mind that this type of installation will require three-phase and to enable them they will ask for plans. everything is going to jump there

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hernangg2013
hace 5 años

the bathroom downstairs not because it is of service as who would say the main one is upstairs, 4 you take in a mouth look you never put so much in a box, always double, the light of the stairs good if I could make a circuit and put a tmb take derived from the box would not be bad what you raise, but good to me what mattered most to me was not to err on the issue of the board and the demand considering that for example the greatest burden is in the years and it could happen that a night 3 above are working together or the one below plus one above at the same time

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

There is a minimum amount of circuits according to electrification degree
There is a minimum number of mouths per environment according to GE
There is a maximum number of mouths per circuit
It is not about being structured. In a plane jumps everything

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

As much as it is a service bathroom you have to have a power outlet
If you derive a shot from a lighting circuit directly affects the calculation of the dpms that is the central theme of the question

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

A mouth can have up to 4 shots in a 10x10 box or up to 2 shots in a 10x5 box
This is contained in the regulation

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nastor
nastor
17.232
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello I think you make an approach that will be purely theoretical, an exercise, it must have something real anyway, and the case you describe is not. You describe 12 environments, on two floors, what would be a house of more than 200 meters; that is high electrify, and corresponds to a three-phase rush and we talk about more than 100 mouths at least. You must have a minimum of 6 circuits on the ground floor (assuming a bedroom below), these are two sockets, two of lights, two of AA, and on the upper floor a minimum of 5 circuits one of sockets, one of lights, three of airs. The size of the safe house will require exclusive line for kitchen as standard, not to mention high consumption electrical equipment. In your theoretical calculation there are missing mouths and circuits, but the simultaneity factor, which for this case is 0.7 (high electrify), also needs to be considered. What I tell you is not a theoretical development, it is what happens in that type of house in reality, 4 x 10 mm connection, 4 x 40A ppal thermal is common. As the basis of what I said, start to diagram the mouths, determine the circuits and diagram the loads, including what you know and what you estimate and apply the simultaneity factor. Doubts, query
hernangg2013
hace 5 años

hello nastor, the house does not have 120 square meters, ground floor there is an air conditioning in dining kitchen, there is a bedroom downstairs that is for visits nothing more there is a special circuit that of AA, one of lighting generates one of special that are those outside, I do not know that I am badly taking out the account in iug without derivative sockets corresponding to 66% of the installation it takes 150th or 13 mouths multiplied 150th by 66% I am based on a reference book under the regulations of the aea if it is true I need to apply the coefficient that I don't know how to do it

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años

According to the plan you uploaded, it cannot be 120 mts²

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello We will make a PARTIAL calculation, based on the information provided. This calculation is not final and is subject to variation. LOW LEVEL: IUG 25 mouths (40x25). 1000 VA TUG 14 mouths 2200VA ACU 2000 VA TOP FLOOR IUG 14 mouths (40x14). 600 VA TUG 2200 VA ACU 1 1300 VA ACU 2. 1000 VA ACU 3 1000 VA Total general circuits: 1000 + 2200 + 600 + 2200 = 6000 VA x 0.7 = 4200 VA Total specific circuits: 2000 + 1300 + 1000 + 1000 = 5300 VA Total DPMS: 9500 VA Clarifications: Missing define some mouths which can alter the calculation A TUE circuit is missing for the kitchen area The new regulation establishes that for the calculation of the dpms the iug circuit is calculated at a rate of 2/3 of 60 VA for each point of use in case of having derivative current outlets, 2200 VA per circuit will be calculated Being a two-storey house, the use of a water pump is not being taken into account, which may be required and changes the calculation. The simultaneity coefficients only apply to general and special use circuits, in this case it will be 0.7 according to the assigned GE Specific use circuits do not apply simultaneity coefficient All data should be reviewed according to reality Any doubt post it LUCK !!!
hernangg2013
hace 5 años

thanks for your time!! Greetings, keep up the good work !!!

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