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Household Electricity

How to collect electrical work being an apprentice

rodrigoinex
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hello my name is Rodrigo and I am studying home electricity and I am learning and I would like to be guided by the prices of how much the work costs ... from changing a power outlet ... changing a light key ... changing a thermal or circuit breaker .. make an installation with cable channel or channel and put corrugated pipes ... change artifacts ... put a bell .. I am from Argentina.
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hello labor costs differ according to the area and quality of work completed Speaking of top quality jobs in Bs As, the complete finished mouth is charged between 800 and 1000 pesos The minimum task 400 Thermal change or bipolar differential 600 1200 light fan To be an apprentice, the costs must be reduced a lot, I would say 40% less Greetings and luck PD: In electricity you never consider that you know them all, it always requires studying and keeping updated, keeping your head open to receive criticism from professionals who know more than one. If you don't know something or have doubts. Ask first, before acting ... there will always be someone to assist you Always keep in mind that people's lives depend on the outcome of our work, so safety is the most important thing above all Read the AEA regulations and always work according to current regulations Never use unapproved or dubious quality materials
rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

Hi. Thank you. Well I clarify that in the light keys I tin the wires ... if I change an appliance I put a terminal block ... I use terminals on boards so that my work is more neat ... I use approved quality materials nothing of normalized. It should also be clarified that I am from Lanus and I charge less than what you said, 55% less to people in the neighborhood ... and I am willing to listen and read advice from others who know more than me ...

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

Ok ... we are neighbors, I'm from Valentin Alsina
Tinning is not necessary and to some extent is counterproductive
How is that nothing normalized?

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

Well, I'm Diamond Villa. I am two blocks from the Claridad sports club. Well I mean those trout cables that say normalized ... which are trout ... the roll instead of weighing 4kilos, weighs 2kilos example I give nothing more. I have also seen corrugated pipes that are the same plastic as the containers of lavandina and melt like a candle ... and also outlets and keys that break dr nothing ... that is what I mean

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

And those trout wires that are pure rubber say: normalized

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

It's true ... but that says normal does not mean anything, it's just a word
Should say:
1- who dictates the standard (IRAM, IEC etc)
2- standard code, for example the unipolar pvc conductor must respond to IRAM NM 247-3. Eye, do not confuse with 247-5 which is something else
3- the laboratory that approves the product, that is to say that it certifies that the product really complies with the standard, example UL
4- must carry the electrical safety seal that is a double circle with an S
Just there you can say the product is standardized and in fact it is an obligation that it is

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

Thanks Gustavo, for your time. I appreciate your advice. I am interested in learning.

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nastor
nastor
17.232
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
hello Rodrigo Difficult your question at this time in Argentina, today budgeting at the right prices for someone who has years of experience in the trade is a complication in the area of home electricity, and I suppose the same thing happens in small businesses (instead of updating costs, sometimes you have to go down to work); In my case, I have at hand the cost table of the NOA electricians association (link here) and is a very good reference when I need it, although after a few years, this only applies to works, since for service it counts more times and type of work than a price list (only experience will make is more precise in this, and it is not a guarantee that the client does not seem excessive). In my case, I talk about clients and this happens in relatively small places or in Barrios, where you must sow enough to later have fruit (years); In the big cities, a plumber, electrician or locksmith appears that you don't know, your head is ripped off and never again ... I don't know how they proceed. Having clarified the point of the tables of work and customer costs, I am going to give you some parameters that currently guide me when I estimate simple and fast work as you mention, and it is based on times of execution, where you must be fast, accurate and charge relatively well; for that you establish a minimum labor cost, such as 350 pesos, for 10 minutes or 45 minutes of work; in the case that it is more than two hours of work, and up to one day, calculates the equivalent to two or three times that the price charged by an hourly domestic employee (not fixed salary) something from 250 to 300 pesos per hour , in the case of larger jobs you are accommodating the price in less (around $ 2000 per day). If you do not have experience, it will take longer for the same result, so you should consider less than what I am exposing you (in the order of 25%), and avoid wanting to fool people wanting to stretch the job. What I write is very personal and a vision that surely does not reflect the thinking of the colleagues in the forum; As for the reference of the time charged for the domestic service, I read it years ago and I was surprised that it works. I clarify that this calculation is to define jobs without budgeting, and it is not that you tell the client that you work by the hour, it is only for your calculation. Ask, as far as I can advise you, although in each place it is different. Comment
rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

Hi Nastor Thank you. If I asked why, as things are in the country, you don't have to tell them sometimes because with everything that is happening, it will not seem expensive ... I also want to give away the work. I want to be honest with them and charge them something that will help me and that they can pay me ... for example a neighbor wants me to do a cable installation in one piece and not how much to charge ...

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nastor
nastor
17.232
hace 6 años

Hi. A couple of weeks ago a client called me because an air of 2500 refrigerators, connected to the general line was not working (there was a lack of food); between organizing myself, I checked the distribution boxes and established the problem (in the plastic ceiling something had failed and there was no power to the outlet, I was not the one who did the Berreta installation); that and looking for commerce in the four meters of cable channel took me two hours, plus an hour of laying the cable channel, cables and the connection; total three long hours, so I charged 900 pesos, and I left all morning; but I could not charge

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

Well, I offer them to buy the materials because several times the customers bought very cheap things and they were trout. And it looks bad because they bought trinkets. Well then I think it costs a neighbor well ... because of an iron pipe that entered through the terrace the cables of the board that is in the street and were 5 meters of main pipe entered. I took the old iron pipe and replaced it with a rigid pvc pipe and put it neatly by the wall until I reached the board of the home ... the pipes with metal clips ... and it took me about 3 hours and a half plus 40min to buy.

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

And I charged 1500. With materials included. In materials spend 200. And labor 1300. Everything is fine. I left everything very clean and the work was all finished.

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

This was a week ago.

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

You charged him well

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nastor
nastor
17.232
hace 6 años

hahahaha if you're a beginner and you charged that, I don't want to know in five or six years ...

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

Good. I will take into account the "sowing" that you said and I will try to be more reasonable ... now that I read your advice I have another perspective and I think that my next job will be charged more reasonably.

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

???????????? nastor was carero? It doesn't offend me ... I'm going to think about what you said ... and take it into account. Regards. Thanks for your time guys

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nastor
nastor
17.232
hace 6 años

Rodrigo, if you did the job, you charged and the client didn't make a bad face, everything is fine.
I recognize that at the time of charging, many times I fall short, although in the last month, I had a couple of episodes where I was kicked to give work to people outside the trade because I paid less; That is an indication of the time.
For the one who does a job on the street, one of the strengths is knowing how to sell it, I can advise you on electricity, but no more than that, the rest is very subjective. I never intend to offend Rodrigo. you can be sure.

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rodrigoinex
hace 6 años

Thanks Nastor. What I mean is that for me your criticisms or opinions are welcome based on experience ... I meant that with no offense ... once again. I thank you for the time you took to answer my questions ... thanks!

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