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Household Electricity

neutral lack of electrical service in the house

leo87
leo87
11
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
I need to know if the interruption of the neutral in my house can cause me a high voltage. to the electrical equipment of measurement of the electric company I get 3 wires 1 neutral and two phase of approximately 110 volts each (between neutral and phase), I only use one phase with the neutral, the other phase only reaches the measuring equipment. I would like to know if in this case the interruption of the neutral in my home can cause me high voltage.
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hello in your case, the lack of neutral will cause everything to be at 220 V this would wreak havoc regards
leo87
leo87
11
hace 6 años

Yes, but how would the high voltage cause, if I only use one phase?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

As much as you do not have the second phase charged, in the meter you will have a pair of voltmeter coils with a common point that is neutral.

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

That is as long as the neutral rises upstream of the meter. If the survey takes place downstream, nothing happens, you only suffer a total or partial power outage and both poles would be at 110V with respect to ground

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leo87
leo87
11
hace 6 años

My meter is electronic, has no coils and the neutral is run (does not enter the meter), in this case would it also induce high voltage?
thanks for answering

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

So, not even if the survey is general (of the transformer), all the houses are linked and you would receive more or less tension according to the impedance of each line

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leo87
leo87
11
hace 6 años

thank you very much for your help
I get it.
that is, if the neutral fails me in the entrance of my house before the meter or after (only me), nothing happens (I stay in the dark), but if it is from the transformer it would cause me low or high voltage.

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Bandurria
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
If the neutral on the supplier side was lifted, the neutral will be established downstream anyway, but its position will be determined by the existing single-phase consumptions (three-phase, I suppose balanced and do not displace the neutral position) , in this way it is possible that you have phase-neutral voltages close to 110 V * 1.73 = 190 V and on the contrary as low as 40 V or less. Graphically think of it as an equilateral triangle, whose sides are the 3 line voltages of 190 V, the center of the triangle is the neutral that is fixed to ground in the transformer from MT to BT, the distance between the center and the vertices, are the phase tensions, if that connection is lifted, that center moves and can be located anywhere, the distance between the center and the vertices changes, and therefore there is the effect of having high tensions on the one hand, and very poor on the other. Just draw it and it will be clear to you. Two aggregates, first, How strange that only 2 phases and one neutral reach the meter. Is that safe? Second if the neutral is cut when it is already inside your single-phase installation, it would be as axelstone tells you and nothing would happen.
elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

Many countries work with 2 phases more neutral

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Bandurria
hace 6 años

Hello, I did not know that distribution, in my list there were: 3 phases + neutral (with access to the phase and line voltages), and that of 3 "lines", as was the old CADE in a part of the Federal Capital in Argentina 3 x 220 V (without neutral) (something that surprised me the first time I stumbled, and that I did not know of its existence because I tried with the polisher and turned on both!)

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 6 años

Yes. I've also met a couple of times with those old facilities

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axel stone
hace 6 años

bandurri the vast majority of western countries work with 2 phases and a neutral or only MONOFASICO, that is to say a single phase and a neutral, in the industrial AREA in the HUGE MAJOR COUNTRY it is used in the INDUSTRIAL area 3 phases and one neutral as normal general, so in a few countries I estimate 2% skip the rules and from what I see Argentina-Chile-Uruguay use another valid style of connecting their residential and industrial facilities that I see as a technician or engineer makes "INCOHERENT" but of course that bothers more than one here apparently ..........

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Bandurria
hace 6 años

You have to start from the generation, which is always three-phase, so a three-phase distribution, and as balanced as possible, is the best option to extract the greatest power to the generator.
The same happens if the power is extracted from an MT / BT transformer, the three-phase distribution (in its 2 versions 3 F + N or 3 Phases only, as we discussed with elektomaq) produces the highest transfer efficiency. In Argentina, in many districts 3 F + N is already lowered to the houses, which results in a much more balanced load, and if you have to use engines, they behave much better.

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leo87
leo87
11
hace 6 años

Here are those installations two phases (approximately 110v) plus the neutral and for higher consumption equipment (2 x110 and 1x 208 against neutral) and

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ydd:alualo
ydd:alualo
2.847
hace 6 años

Totally agree with Axel Stone, and I support what Bandurria comments, regarding the behavior of electricity. Hopefully the friend leo87, get this and do not fall into confusion, 220v systems. single phase

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