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Mabe washing machine model Lma250dbasio does not wash or squeeze

CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
] img] Do not wash or squeeze and when it starts to fill it overflows and does not stop continues filling and gives error E4. I have little experience but I understand some things. I already started the engine directly both directions. The hose that carries the pressure switch is not clogged and I blow but it keeps filling and the solenoid valves continue working the engine in neither of the two functions is to wash or squeeze it makes the attempt to work the door block only uses two wires is like a platinum but if there is continuity could someone please help me?
Fermin 007
Fermin 007
57.307
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Then first check that the pressure switch hose is not clogged, or the part of the tub where it is connected, remove the end of the pressure switch hose and blow towards the tub and see if the air is free, then put the washing machine to work and blow to the pressure switch and see if they cut the solenoid valves, this you do without water, if they cut, then place the hose that comes under pressure on both sides and test, on the centrifuge, it could be the block doors, greetings
CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Hi, thanks for your suggestion. I inform you of the following yesterday I took out the hose that goes in the tub I put it to fill and blow strongly and there is no difference continues to fill, and the strange thing is that it does not wash or squeeze or centrifuge

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

The starter is good and I started the engine directly, the engine does not use a weight sensor. And he uses a steel guaya that if activated by putting it into service to wash but does not work the engine or squeeze or wash and give action to wash and fill and fill and drips the water and does not stop

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

The pressure switch hose is not clogged and when blowing through the hose that goes to the pressure switch the solenoid valves continue to work, the door block only uses two wires, it is like two plates and if it has continuity

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Fermin 007
Fermin 007
57.307
hace 6 años

because I feel that they could be cut cables, check continuity of each cable to the electronic card, both of the pressure switch and the motor cables, if they are good, it could be the main relay of the electronic card, or some other electronic element or wet tracks, regards

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

I appreciate your opinion but I inform you that I have only measured with a texter that I have the pressure switch and door block cables to the electronic card and these are fine if there is continuity, if you think there are some possible options please thank you for your help

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Fermin 007
Fermin 007
57.307
hace 6 años

CARLOS Well, I leave you this video, it is not your washing machine, but it helps you to see if there is voltage in the pressure switch, if there is no voltage, then the electronic card is not sending voltage to the pressure switch: https://www.youtube.com/ watch? v = VGHWJFnjCWg as you see, an electronic pressure switch can only be checked with an oscilloscope, but again, you can check if there is voltage on the pressure switch, regards

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Fermin 007
Fermin 007
57.307
hace 6 años

Now if there is voltage on the wires or terminals of the pressure switch, change the pressure switch, but be careful, try again without water, start and then when the solenoid valves hum, you blow very slowly, not strongly, as you say that did, or also get a syringe and you take the needle and apply air to see if it cuts and already works the engine, strong mind if you blow, then it will not cut since those pressure switches are very sensitive, greetings

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Ok, I'm going to check the voltage and inform you, thanks

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Hello today, disassemble all the cables of the washing machine and all the connectors of the card and I measured continuity and there is no broken cable I put it back as I was doing the same thing there is no sign to wash or squeeze but if water enters and does not stop , I put it on pause I put it to squeeze and if it drops the water and after two minutes or so it gives the signal of E4 then I decide to measure current input to the pressure switch with the equipment running continuously ,,,,

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

And if current enters the pressure switch but in the video that you suggest, current enters through the two wires of the corners but in my washer, current enters through the middle wire and one of the corners I decide to take out the pressure switch connector I measure the current and measure exactly same with the pressure switch on or off, but while I am measuring the current to the pressure switch connector without the connected pressure switch started to wash, did the wash cycle then gave the signal to squeeze I did not touch anything to know what was going to happen threw the water and after two minutes or so gives the signal E4

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

So that seemed strange to me, I turned it off and put it on again, and with my texter measuring voltage I touched one of the pressure switch connector wires again without the pressure switch connected and immediately started squeezing without giving the E4 signal and done this Try several times today and if you wash and squeeze but I don't know why I do it when my texter measures the voltage I put everything back in place again connect the pressure switch and I don't use my texter to measure voltage at all and the fault is the same I do the test several times and the same thing happens again error E4

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

I decide to disconnect the pressure switch again I put it to wash with my texter I measure voltage on the connector and start washing to squeeze I do the same and it works well, my question is will the pressure switch be bad? Does the pressure switch work with a signal or impulse, will the texter give that impulse that signal? I am looking forward to your response

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Tell me what the washing machine has

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Fermin 007
Fermin 007
57.307
hace 6 años

Well, I think you may send the signal (ergios) to the electronic card with the multimeter when you test or touch the contacts with the tips of the multimeter, I think it is the bad pressure switch, you need an OSCILLOSCOPE to perform your check, there is no more than get a pressure switch to see if it already works, or only that your multimeter has scale to test ERGIOS (frequency), greetings

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Fermin 007
Fermin 007
57.307
hace 6 años

I leave this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Jii53GAhU here they tell you how to try

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Fermin 007
Fermin 007
57.307
hace 6 años

Continue: to check the frequency signal (ergios) and thus go to safety, but for me, it is the BAD pressure switch, but it can also be the electronic card, greetings and luck.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Regards Carlos Alberto Grajales O. It is possible that the diaphragm of the electronic pressure switch is broken and therefore not hearing a click synonymous that the solenoid valves would stop working once you blow in a sustained but not very strong way, it would involve replacing that water level sensor. If the semi-transparent sleeve looks widened at both ends which causes the air to leak that should put pressure on the diaphragm (if it is good), the water will continue to enter nonstop. In that case with cutting about 5 mm at each end of the sleeve in question and reconnecting it and test, it would be seen if that could be the reason that the water does not stop entering. Of course, the presence of a crack in the aforementioned sleeve would cause the same results and should be repaired or replaced. The door block is a simple door switch located in the solenoid valve compartment whose terminals must be clean. Comment on it. Thanks and regards.
CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Thanks for the suggestion. I had already cut the ends of the hose but it remains the same without making the slightest noise or signal that the engine wants to run normally. The hose is not broken either. Also the pressure switch and door block cables I measured continuity to the electronic card and they are not broken if you see other possible options I appreciate your response and thanks to you or another person

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Carlos._ Did you check if the diaphragm in the electronic pressure switch is broken? Thanks and Regards.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

How do I prove it ? What I did was blow it double the hose and I see that the air remains there in the pressure switch, if you give me any suggestions to verify if the diaphragm is broken or I will not put it into practice I wait for your response and thank you

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

I haven't done it, could you show me how I do it? Although I already blow it and I don't hear the air escape

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Regards Carlos._To know if the diaphragm is broken by blowing gently and steadily (when the washer is turned off) you should hear a sound like "click" without having to bend the sleeve afterwards._ If the washer was on and the washing stage was programmed , when blowing through the hose and the diaphragm being in good condition, the solenoid valves would stop working._ If they are kept running and no water level sensor error is shown, the two possibilities to be presented would be: (continued) .... ..

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) .. 1.-That the diaphragm is broken and 2.-That on the card one of the triacs that feed the solenoid valves is direct and would have to be replaced._ For the 2nd case it is very easy to determine it. the cable of the washing machine and without touching the panel you observe that at least one of the solenoid valves allows water to pass through or simply emits noise while the water stopcock is closed, it is clear indication that the triac that feeds that solenoid valve should be changed. 3rd option would be to disassemble the electronic pressure switch and check the diaphragm, but it is not necessary.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

It is not necessary because the test of blowing through the sleeve towards the electronic pressure switch allows to determine if the sound is heard or not. Try to see. Thank you and Greetings.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Hello I tell you the following, today I decided to disassemble the entire electrical system of the washing machine and disconnect all the connectors of the card I measured continuity in all the cables and there is no broken cable I reconnected everything as it was, I started the washing machine again and the result was the same, does not give any signal to the engine or to wash or squeeze but if it continues doing the same if water enters the washing machine and does not stop filling. Then I give it pause and put it to squeeze and if it drops the water and after two minutes or so gives the signal E4

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Carlos: _ I leave you a video link about the E4 error to start there: ___https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = t3XItLrGYTA

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Hello, can we continue talking about the failure of my washing machine? I am looking forward to your response

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Of course Carlos._ How about replacing the electronic pressure switch? _ Will you have the manual of the washing machine to let us know the meaning of the E4 error in that particular model? _Thanks and Regards.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Carlos: __ What colors are the 3 wires that connect to the pressure switch? _ Which of these three wires is connected by a bridge with the door switch located in the solenoid valve compartment? _ What is the color of the wire that Does the door switch go to the power board? _There are at least 2 types of electronic pressure switches: _1.-One with electronic card and 2.-The other with two ceramic capacitors ._In the latter the middle terminal is negative pole and with both ends must yield 2 equal values in a range of 2.4 vdc to 5 vdc ._ (continued) ...

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) .. The one on the electronic card between the negative pole and one of the positive poles must yield 5 vdc. Between the other positive pole and the negative pole the value must be about 3 vdc. The first value is the power supply as long as that the 2nd value is the exchange of data between the pressure switch and the power card._Comenta what is your case._Thanks and Greetings.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

In addition, if the pressure switch is 3 wires and you only get one reading instead of two readings, the fault is in the card and the funny thing is that the error code of the water level sensor is not shown in the digital display. What I ask again: Do you have the manual of that washing machine model? Thanks and Regards.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Thank you for your interest I have several things to tell you, after assembling the electrical system as I decided to measure current in the three wires that go to the pressure switch and there is no current in the two corner wires but if there is current between the middle wire and one of the corners as I could see in a video the current enters through the two wires of the corners, I decide to take out the pressure switch and measure current in the connector and at that precise moment it began to wash that seemed strange because I had no water and the pressure switch was not connected, so I turn off the washing machine

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

And I program it to wash and I hope and it does nothing I measure voltage to the pressure switch connector and start washing, now if it washes if it squeezes it does not say E4 but it only does so at the moment that I measure the current in the pressure switch connector my question is why ? What does my texter have that touching that connector works well? and when I remove the pressure switch, I should not send a signal so that the water inlet solenoid valves work well, so what is wrong with my washing machine?

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

I connect the pressure switch as it is original and full and full, it does not stop, I put it to squeeze if it drops the water but it does not turn the tub and mark E4 I remove the pressure switch the program to wash begins to enter water and when it goes in half I decide With my texter measure current in the pressure switch connector and start washing when making the change to squeeze I have to touch that connector with my texter to work well, so what do I do? Can you help me I wait for your answer

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings Carlos._The help we can give you is conditioned with a help that only you can provide ._That help is very simple: _ Disarm the pressure switch so that inside you see if there are only two identical ceramic capacitors or if on the contrary there is a electronic card._That will be the starting point for the analysis of the behavior that you are confronting with the presence of the tester and the pressure switch._ A few years ago I analyzed the case of the IE error in a Samsung washing machine .- (continues) ...

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... Error related to the pressure switch ._Create several scenarios to see its behavior and at what time the error was displayed ._None of them the tester influenced._ Understand that the power card had no fault whatsoever. I always got two readings instead of one. The pressure switch on the other hand in excellent condition. So, as you can see, I deduce that in your case there is a problem with the power card that is not supplied with the 2nd voltage value that is needed for the pressure switch responds ._ (continued) ...

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... The test to be performed is very simple and should be executed as explained below: _1.-You turn off the washing machine and remove the pressure switch from the washing machine._2.-Press the On / Off button and wait no more than 5 minutes._ It is expected that the error code related to the lack of the electronic pressure switch is displayed ._3.-Proceed with the tester to measure all possible alternatives between each two wires in the connector where the pressure switch is connected and let us know those values._If you have the chance to do it directly on the power card it would be great ._ (continue) .....

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... If the card is OK, you should obtain two values at the same place ._4.-Then program only the washing stage but without water._5.-Once the solenoid valves are activated and regardless of the error ( ?) Due to the absence of the pressure switch being displayed, it proceeds again to take readings preferably at the level of the power card and where the electronic pressure switch connector is connected._ Be careful not to touch 2 pins at the same time with the tip of the tester cable because you can make a short film and it will be worse._6.-Finally let us know all the readings ._ (continue) .....

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... Let us know all the readings obtained by specifying which are before the washing stage and which are taken at the washing stage._Don't confuse them._ As you can see, only you can help us with that simple procedure It won't take you long. You don't need to do anything else. Just indicate it and report what you get. Please indicate also the cables involved in the readings taken or we will continue to turn around and we won't get anywhere. Do you think you can? Do? _ We count on you! ._ Thanks and Regards.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Ok thanks for the suggestion to have these data I inform you what if I can tell you it is already that the pressure switch had already disassembled it and if it has two train identical ceramics the first test I already did it I removed the pressure switch I put it to wash and start filling the tub of water I can not leave it 5 minutes as you say because you throw the full and full water and keep filling that is the only thing that I have done then I measure the voltage and inform you in advance thank you

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Carlos._By being a pressure switch with two ceramic capacitors and without the card, the middle terminal is the negative pole while the end terminals are positive poles._ Between the two end terminals you will never get a reading. middle and each end._Reads whose values can be framed between a low value of 2.4 vdc and a high value of 5 vdc._If you only get a reading, the problem is already in the card ._ (continues) ...

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... You misunderstood the 5 min. When you press the On / Off button it is only for the viewfinder to turn on. At no time did I specify to program the washing stage as the starting point. You should wait until a maximum of 5 min to see if the digital display could show the error related to the water level sensor and take the corresponding readings during that time ._After having these readings, it is when you would proceed to program the washing stage WITHOUT WATER. stopcock must be CLOSED. And that is when you would take the readings again to compare them.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

You should not do things your own way but as indicated._ With luxury of step-by-step details I indicated the procedure to follow and I received information that was not intended to be carried out._Why the use of water that It is not necessary for the test? _ Read carefully what I explained in the previous comments or we will simply never get anywhere ._You are so dizzy with everything you have been doing without any result that you are doing things mechanically and that has no sense ._ (continued) ...

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... A priori, the fault is in the power card to obtain a single reading._Very possibly due to damage to one of the two identical resistors that feed the 2 ceramic capacitors._Perhaps some triac in that specific circuit that feeds the sensor of the level of water that being damaged prevents the signal from feeding the electronic pressure switch. Read the explanation well because I am still waiting for the colors of the cables and so far nothing. You are going to have to take a break to clear your mind and see with objectivity what you should do._ Greetings.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Friend thanks for the suggestions and if you are right that washing machine has me marry as you said, tomorrow I inform you exactly the voltage of the pressure switch connector has three wires the one in the middle is brown one end terminal is light blue and the other end is dark blue , and indeed between the two blues it does not measure current but between the brown and the corner terminals if there is current tomorrow I tell you exactly how much it measures but I think it is 2.5 vdc

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Little friend I did just like you did and this is what happened == I waited 5 minutes and the digital viewfinder there was no signal the voltage was 2 vdc without any change then I gave the wash signal with the closed water inlet tap and the voltage was the same, I inform you that my measuring texter is not of the latest generation but if it helps me example to measure 2.5 it does not reflect it on the screen but if the 2 bone measures exact it is 1 volt 2 volts 3 volts, he continued ,,, then I put it to squeeze the voltage is the same and automatically starts bouncing the water without turning the tub and it is there continuous

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Where it shows the error in the viewfinder of the E4 screen, I already update here the photo of the pressure switch connector with its colors I appreciate your help and suggestions thank you I await your response

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings Carlos._ It is possible that the error of the water level sensor is not shown because if it reaches voltage but that voltage is too low for the pressure switch to work properly._ If you had read with the tester either 3 vdc or 4 vdc or 5 vdc the thing would be different in your favor._ In my way of seeing the fault is in the power card._ The voltage is very low and could be due to deteriorated resistances or capacitors electrolytes devalued ._ At this point a good electronic technician could check the card and corroborate the tensions and therefore replace the devalued parts ._ (continued

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... in the circuit related to the water level sensor from the microprocessor to the connector where the electronic pressure switch is placed. You can try to make a small test with the help of two 1.5 volt double A batteries. ._To do this, it is very important that the brown wire is the negative pole while the other two wires correspond to the positive pole._What to do? _The negative pole of the battery is connected to the brown wire and the positive pole of the battery will be connected to the light blue cable ._ (continued) .....

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) ... The other battery would be connected by its negative pole the brown wire while the dark blue wire would be connected by its positive pole._ This way you would be feeding the water level sensor with a direct current voltage of about Approximately 3.5 vdc at 4 vdc to both ceramic capacitors._Values that exceed the minimum 2.5 vdc in each case._ I cannot give you 100% guarantee that it works but it is only an idea in view of the low voltage supplied by the card Power to the electronic pressure switch. Thanks and Regards.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Friend thanks for the suggestions, I have another question, is there a video that shows this way to do the test with the batteries?

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings Carlos._ I do not know any video in relation to what I have raised._ Theoretically the water level sensor requires a continuous voltage of up to 5 vdc and not less than 2.4 vdc to be fed from one side and can exchange Information with the micro-controller on the other side. In view of the tester's behavior without the sensor being connected, I deduce that the help with a pair of 1.5 volt AA batteries as proposed is feasible that the sensor respond when both ceramic capacitors receive the referred voltage ._ (continued) ...

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

(continued) .. The test only tries to show that the fault is in the power card ._You are free not to do it but for the washing machine to work again you have two options so far: _1.-Have a technician replace what is devalued in the circuit that involves the electronic pressure switch or 2.-Replace the power card ._You can wait for some electronic technician in the Forum who can give an opinion on what I have raised ._Thanks and Greetings.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Ok friend thanks for your input and suggestions, I will see what I do, whatever the decision and then solution I inform you by this means, .....

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings Carlos._We will be pending._Thanks and Greetings.

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CARLOS ALBERTO GRAJALES O
hace 6 años

Friend I finally inform you that I was able to start the washing machine, I wanted to thank you for your suggestions, it was very helpful, really, thank you very much,

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Regards Carlos._We would like to know in details how you managed to make the washing machine work again._Tell about it._Thanks and Regards.

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