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Roof insulation

nano278
hace 8 años
hace 8 años
Hello, I am building the house and for the insulation of the ceiling I am offered a 10 mm polyethylene foam membrane with aluminum foil on both sides (type Isolant Double ALU 10 mm). However, I understand that you could also use a 50 mm glass wool felt with aluminum foil on one side, type Isover Rolac Silver Cover HR 50 mm. My question is: which is better? What advantages or disadvantages do they know in each case? I clarify that the roof I do with corrugated sheet galvanized on metallic profiles C galvanized. Greetings and thank you very much.
servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 8 años
hace 8 años
Hi. Will you make a ceiling and on this the thermal insulation? In this case, place only the 5 cm Isover wool. It is not necessary to have an aluminum face because if it is under the ceiling it has nothing to reflect. regards
nano278
hace 8 años

Hi, I'll do ceiling, the idea is to put glass wool on the ceiling too (apart from the insulation under the veneer).
As far as the sheet goes, aluminum foil acts as a vapor barrier, so I understand that it is indispensable in either case, although it is rare that Isover indicates that this layer is placed down and with Isolant going upwards .

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 8 años
hace 8 años
Hello glass wool is more difficult to work by its own manipulation, firing fibers that stick in the skin enter by airways and eyes and little else you have to disguise as an astronaut to avoid suffering the consequences, is an excellent thermal insulation but if you wet will not be the polyurethane foam is impermeable and if it is well placed it helps to avoid leaks as it forms a barrier and drains out which does not happen with glass wool which is a sponge and while it is wet it does not isolate Sellers say "if with alumimio is much better !!" But if you ask for an explanation of why it is better, you do not know how to say it or you get off the subject. Aluminum has the property of absorbing heat, so it can be somehow beneficial to improve the performance of the air-conditioning environments, but as long as it is in view. If it is with a ceilings, it no longer has any function but to have a more expensive product. Its reflective ability of light is null, since it does not give the light when it is between the sheet and a ceilings regards
nano278
hace 8 años

Good information, thank you. Going back to the subject, and seeing the disadvantages of glass wool, is there any advantage? sound isolation for example?
If I place both, what would they put up and which would down?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 8 años

yes. It is likely to be more acoustic and if it is in sight the glass wool at the joints has better termination. Another advantage could be its useful life but I do not think it is decisive when choosing. I would not put both, I would consider it an unnecessary excess

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nano278
hace 8 años

The subject is that originally I wanted to put a 100 mm glass wool, as used in the steel framing houses, but seeing that it is not easy to get, I thought of putting 2 layers of 50 mm, a Silver Rolac and another common one little more economic.
The question is whether the Rolac should be placed just between the straps and the plates (with a plastic mesh bra and reinforced with some crossed wires) and the other glass wool on the ceiling, so that when heating in winter should not to heat without wanting that space that is between the ceiling and the sheet.
What do you think?

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elektomaq
elektomaq
62.202
hace 8 años

to me in particular I think a lot, but hey ... not bad is .... the other goes through the pocket

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 8 años
hace 8 años
Hello I tell you how I did five years ago with very good results in both summer and winter. Between the profiles and the plates I put Isolant 5mm with a single layer of aluminum, (the aluminum layer for the side of the sheet) that helps to dissipate the heat and then telgopor of 60mm to completely isolate the heat, condensation and noise when stones fall. The plates I glued between them with glue "no more nails" that is to the water and special for telgopor. The only thing I regret is that I have drilled the sheets on the back with long self-drilling screws; those that come with synthetic rubber washers. The truth that was a shit, I ended up sealing each one of the heads of the autoprforantes. In a garage with the same characteristics and anchoring system; use short screws at the bottom of the gutter and the truth adjust much better without danger of denting the plate. Try the two ways before putting everything together and you will notice the difference. The telgopor set it with plastic maya underneath and reins of galvanized wire of the finite, which is used to zenar electric cañerìas. Luck.
nano278
hace 8 años

Thank you for your comments Ricardo. Now I turn everything, starting with the subject screws, everyone tells me that just use long screws on the back of the sheet, you say that this way you got water?
Using EPS instead of glass wool seemed cumbersome to me because there is no OSB or support machimbre, I can not imagine how you hit them, edge with edge? And go between straps cutting the EPS according to the separation of these or go from wall to wall above the straps? Or on the ceiling? Will you have photos to understand it better?
Regards!

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 8 años

Are the plates going to be mounted on U or C profiles of sheet metal or pipes? I mounted them on profiles of C plate of 6m light, these before uploading the paint (two hands) of liquid asphalt (to avoid oxidation) there are some that come galvanized but are expensive.
The insulant blanket has the same width as the sheet or a little more, so I pulled the roll from end to end (to be tightly stretched) and then the top plate put screws on the tips so that the blanket does not run and then I put the rest. The next sheet the same trying to fill the blanket on which was already placed.

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 8 años

Unfortunately I did not take photos of the job because it was an emergency (a tornado flew a neighboring roof and broke my spout 86, a disaster imagine all the furniture wet, etc.) opted for the sheet for the fast assembly, but did not want to suffer the subject of the condensate drip. But I will try to be as detailed as possible if it serves my experience. I'm not a techista, so all advice is good.

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nano278
hace 8 años

The plates go on galvanized C profiles (belts) and these on larger galvanized C profiles (beams), with slope of between 10 and 12%. Can you give me more detail about the EPS theme and the problems you had with the screws?
regards

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Ricardo Ab.
Ricardo Ab.
5.181
hace 8 años

Hi, the problems with the screws is that it would have to put a support in each channel where you are going to drill (something quite uncomfortable, at least for me) but if you want to tighten well, the plates will be abolished (and that I bought trapezoidal cincalum of more thickness). On the contrary in the garage, I put short screws in the lower part of the sheet and I was able to tighten well without danger of dent. The two are over five years old, in the garage I did not have a leak and on the roof of the house because of those dents I had to seal each one of the screws (ONE BIRTH)

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