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led solar light with 10W detector, livarnolux brand, does not work

rober2017
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Good to everyone; My name is Rober and my query is as follows. I have a 10W led solar light with detector of people of the brand "Livarnolux, bought on the head", to turn on at night and since I bought it it was going well, but last month it stopped working, the focus only has (9 months) What happens is that now instead of turning on, now it gives a spark, flash type of photos and does not go. Call the house to be in warranty is (3 years) and they tell me to throw it that is no longer valid. My curiosity made me open it and sniff around what could have happened, nothing strange, no more than two rechargeable 3.7V batteries that seem in good condition, I tested them and they give me about 4.2V, after putting them to charge. My surprise is that the bulb does not detect me and does not work, so I realize that I can put it in the house with a transformer, because the cable that goes from the solar panel to the bulb is connected by a tab or connector Type any computer charger, so get to work, and I put the 12V charger and surprise the light turns on and detects me. Now happy, I leave the bulb connected to the current so that the batteries are recharged and verify that it happens. My other surprise is that while the bulb is plugged in, it works, but at the moment I unplug it the bulb does not detect or it turns on. The problem does not know where it may come from, because the batteries are charged and the only thing it does is flash photo sparkling and nothing more, if I plug it back into the current if it works and detects and illuminates me. Could someone tell me more or less what happens. Thank you in advance and very well for all the help you present here. Regards; ROBER
JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

Contribute photographs of the plate.

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rober2017
hace 5 años

Good Jose Miguel:
Thank you for worrying, thank you very much, although I don't know if I'm doing well.
I have published the photo of a small plate that goes in the middle of the two batteries, both 3.7 volts.
I have observed her and see nothing strange.
Having what you think and thanks for worrying, I don't know if I am writing well in this area and you will get to see the photo.
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rober2017
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
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JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

The first thing you have to do is measure the voltage at the two points + B and -B.

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rober2017
hace 5 años

Good Jose Miguel; Thank you
I have checked the voltage with the solar panel connected to the bulb and the batteries put on or taken out and it gives me 10 volts depending on whether I approach a portable lamp that I have to the solar panel, so much where is the (B- and B +) , like where the red and black wires are, there is always voltage while the solar panel is connected on both sides.
If I disconnect the solar panel and just leave the batteries, where it says (B- and B +), it gives me the sums of the two battery voltages, each one has 4.20 Volts charged, which gives me 8.40 Volts On the wires nothing

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JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

What you say is very rare and makes me think that the batteries are bad. It is not normal for a battery to rise in voltage when it is receiving charge and pass from 8.4 to 10v instantly.
Tell me if there are any written references in these batteries.

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rober2017
hace 5 años

In the batteries it puts: they are model 18650 of 3.7 volts each and 1800 mAH,
Right now, after charging them, it gives me 4.20 Volts each, when I plug the solar panel into the terminals (B- and B +) it gives me between 10 or 11.30 or 12 Volts depending on how close the solar panel is of a lamp that I have portable. If I take out the portable light and unplug the solar panel from the spotlight, at the terminals (B- and B +) it gives me 8.40 Volts. If I plug it back into the spotlight and give it light with the The portable lamp rises to 10 or 11 or 12 Volts depending on how close the portable lamp on the solar panel is.

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JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

I would like to see the presence detector circuit part.

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rober2017
hace 5 años

Good, I have put a few augmented so you can see the best possible. The first 4 are on one side and 5,6 and 7 are on the other, then I put the 8 and 9 that are augmented from photo 3, and the 10 is repeated from the 1st and 2nd photo.
Greetings and thanks

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JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

The source of the fault is on the board where the 5 wires plus 3 contacts of the flat belt connect.
In that plate there is an IC4 regulator that is responsible for maintaining the voltage below the voltage of the batteries
I can't see the nomenclature if esque has it.
Most likely, the regulation does not work well and therefore increasing the voltage of the batteries reaches the optimum voltage threshold for the volumetric.

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rober2017
hace 5 años

Good, I give you another 4 photos. In the first two you see some numbers, which I imagine is the nomenclature to which you refer and the other two orient them to a piece that next puts D1 and is reddish, and you I send them because when I increase to take the other photos, I notice that it seems that that piece I don't know what it is, it seems like a resistance but I never saw it, and it seems like cast or they are my things, I say it because it seems as if it were blackish what opinion do you think

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JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

D1 is a dido and it is not that this blackish one is that it has a line that indicates its cathode.

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rober2017
hace 5 años

Okay, so the solution, what is it? Change the IC4 regulator to another?
Thank you

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JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

To be sure, you should see the data sheet of that regulator and measure the input and output voltages.

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rober2017
hace 5 años

Good,
Do you mean this data sheet that I have found searching online? Although it comes in third place, I imagine that the reference is to the fifth line where it puts (5.0V + -3% ,, 7550-1). Is that, as I look at the tensions, with the batteries on and solar panel giving it light, or only with the batteries, or only with the solar panel without batteries?
Thanks again.

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JOSE MIGUEL SIRGO PASCUAL
hace 5 años

With the batteries obviously on.

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