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Industrial electronics

Regular AC motor speed 40 W

omarturo9827
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hello friends, I want to regulate the speed of a small AC motor of those simple and small ones of 40 W square plate, the dimer would be excluded because you want it to be stable. It could be the construction of a circuit or some commercial circuit of washing machine, or appliance. thanks for your time, regards -Update: The use I will give is for a magnetic stirrer and basically what I need is a circuit that regulates the voltage of the alternating current but without losing the sinus, I already tried with simple dimmers but they are very unstable. Greetings and thanks
Edurau
Edurau
835
hace 5 años

Normally, a magnetic stirrer, of those used in laboratories, is composed of a coil, under the bottom of virio, driven by a dimmer, inside the tube, a magnet that has the agitation paddle. It is simple and very useful. luck

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servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Hi. The only ways you have to control the speed is by electronic means (dimmer), electro mechanical (coil) or mechanical means with pulleys. Washing machines and appliances use conventional dimmers for this. What application will this have? Regards
Nostromoelectronica
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
When you say "small 40watts square plate motor" I suppose you mean one of the phantom pole type, without capacitor and without brushes. I have not tried to control the speed of that kind of engine, my suggestion is a PWM control and tachometric feedback so as not to affect the torque at low rotation speeds. In air conditioning equipment they use this method to vary the speed of the turbine engine which is a squirrel cage type split phase with capacitor. Do you have knowledge of electronics to implement the circuit? Regards.
omarturo9827
hace 5 años

Hello friend, thank you for your response, I know basic electronics to assemble circuits and the use I am going to give is for a magnetic stirrer. If there was a commercial refrigeration circuit in which I could buy it would help me a lot. Regards

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Nostromoelectronica
hace 5 años

The detail is that a narrow range of speed variation is achieved.
What Juite says (greetings) is correct, in inverter air conditioners, they use a frequency inverter to control the speed of rotation of the motor compressor (which is wound in "Y" configuration or permanent magnet star and rotor)
You don't mention what speed range you want to drive to suggest a particular circuit.

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Nostromoelectronica
hace 5 años

A dimmer is a circuit that controls the phase angle at which a triac trips, which controls the energy applied to the load.The basic scheme lacks feedback so the torque is compromised at low rpm in the case of motors.

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juite
juite
372
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
This theme is recurring here: In the case of motors that have short-circuit rotors, the speed at which they rotate is proportional to what the field does. Well if you want to control its speed you should focus on doing something with the speed of rotation of the field. N (rpm) = (60. fq) / p "in this equ. The only variable is the frequency" N (rpm) >>>> Speed in revolutions per minute. fq >>>>>>>> generator frequency (v; i). p >>>>>>>> number of the stator pole pair. The reference to the "generator" is the one that provides the energy - if there is no synthesizer in between. The speed at which the field rotates is in our case (Argentina) 50 times per second. At what speed will the machine rotate? . I'm going to the ecu. : I do (50 * 60) / 1 = 3000 [rpm]. Simple: if I want to change the [rpm] I have to change the frequency (fq). There are drivers of this type today. Pulse width modulators (PWM) do not modify frequency, they only dose energy; in the same way, but less sophisticated, they make those systems that use triac. In these cases, the variation in velocity is manifested by an effect called slip.
Aguilucho8
hace 5 años
hace 5 años
Sorry juite , but what do you mean when you talk about controlling "the speed of rotation of the field"? Is it the same frequency of the generator? What generator do you mean? How is its frequency regulated? Is it a dimmer, a control by PWM? I would like to reach a concrete solution ... Thanks for your help
servimat1
servimat1
138.835
hace 5 años

Hi. This query is from another user. Do you want to reach a concrete solution? Do you have two accounts? Regards

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