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sony hcd-gnx80 audio relay is not activated

edgar rangel
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hello friends, I have a sony hcd-gnx80 sound equipment, which does not activate the audio relay. I already did several tests. The device turns on normally without protecting itself 1- I measured voltages in the integrated amplifier, ok 2- I measured voltage at the audio output, ok 3- I put an audio signal through the auxiliary and there is input audio in the amplifier and in the earphone 4- I jumped the audio output contacts on the relay and there is sound in the speakers 5- I measured transistors, resistors and diodes none devalued 6- I measured voltages in Q647, Q648 and others, ok. Except in Q644 that it is not reaching the base 3.4v of the micro, 12v ok. Thus indicating that the fault comes from the microprocessor. My questions are. 1- Could it be that I can take the 3.4v from another side to activate the relay 2- will it be to bridge the relay and leave it like this 3- Could it be that you can adapt a circuit with a relay to continue protecting the amplifier and speakers ic. if any of you have a circuit or other idea please help me
edgar rangel
hace 6 años

transistor voltages Q644- b-0v. c-14.3v. e-0v.
Q647- b-0.6v. c-0v. e-0v.
Q666- b-0.7v. c-0.14v. e-0v.
Q648- b-0v. c-1.6v. e-0v.

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Milflo
Milflo
1.386
hace 6 años

On the bottom of the equipment, specifically below the front it has 4 screws that secure the front with the metal base. Check that you have them on, 2 of these screws make the hearing aid card (PHONES) connected to the chassis ground, the absence of these 2 screws is the reason that the relay does not close. I hope it's your case.

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edgar rangel
hace 6 años

This does not bring that system, and the relay does not act in the absence of the 3.4v that come from the micro

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jomi
jomi
38.143
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Can you indicate what voltages you have in these 4 transistors?
edgar rangel
hace 6 años

q644- base 0v, collector 15v, emitter 0v
q647- base 1.5v, collector 0v
q666- base 3.4v, collector 15v

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jomi
jomi
38.143
hace 6 años

With respect to Q666.
If you have 3.4V in base, the TR becomes saturated and the collector should go to almost zero. This would close the relay
Solder and test the Q666 outside

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EVELIO RIOS H
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Edgar what voltages are in the IC550 (cc protector)
edgar rangel
hace 6 años

pin3- 3.5v, pin1-14v

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EVELIO RIOS H
hace 6 años

Friend pin 2, pin 4 and pin 6, what?

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edgar rangel
hace 6 años

Let me try the pins. if you have another idea that can be applied

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edgar rangel
hace 6 años

Hi friend Evelio, ic550.
pin1-14.20v.
pin2-0v.
pin3-3.4v.
pin4-0v.
pin5-gnd.
pin6-14.20

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EVELIO RIOS H
hace 6 años

Friend everything is ok. If you activate the surrounds, is the relay activated?

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edgar rangel
hace 6 años

yes

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edgar rangel
hace 6 años

Friend Evelio I need to fix this damage very soon, the customer is desperate, I ask the favor how to solve the fault. That tells me if I bypass the output contacts that I know is not recommended, it is left unprotected but it is a quick solution. Another is if I can make a separate circuit that controls the relay, but I don't know where to take the signal that goes to the base of the transistor. And finally take the signal of the relay of the surrond that is link relay, for front relay, but the surrond remain inactive and another is that I do not know how much current that pin sends, although the relays are the same reference.

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edgar rangel
hace 6 años

Friend I need prompt and forceful response. If you have another idea, I appreciate it

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EVELIO RIOS H
hace 6 años

Friend the 1.5v that reach the collector Q648 will serve you. Disconnect the line that comes from the microphone for the R644 and connect the 1.5v there (before the resistor to follow the voltage divider with the R645). Try and comment.

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alexsantana
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
I do not remember well if this model when turning on does the test in the cassettes, if so verify that it does the test well because if the cassettes have any problem the relay is not activated, it also verifies in the output of hearing aids.
edgar rangel
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Friends I already fixed the equipment, it turns out that since this equipment was already being repaired previously, it had not taken into account the screws that the friend Milflo was saying and they had already taken some things from him, put everything normal and activated the relay. Thank you for your collaboration, the solution is from Milflo
Milflo
Milflo
1.386
hace 6 años

Very good news, perhaps I need to explain myself better or an image, but in the end I am resolved.
This fault is common in sony equipment, several have arrived to me and as you say they were already intervened and in some cases with the bridged developer and with the damaged amplifier you will already imagine how the speakers were, greetings.

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