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washing machine haier XQB100-.9188 brand E6

wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
hello everyone if someone could help me with a problem I have with a washing machine haier XQB 100 the same to turn it on I brand E6 and it does not allow me to do anything else I would appreciate any comments that help me with that thanks
btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Good morning Wilson .---- You got the idea .--- Replace the main engine with the two lights and check if they both turn on at the same time or do it alternately in the wash stage .--- Eye: - - Do not use the capacitor either .--- Thanks and Regards.

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

I did the bulb and it does not light either one or the other my cord like it does not reach voltage to the wires one can measure voltage to that cables friend

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Wilson: - You can blow but not very strong so you do not enter the centrifuge stage in its place. If you have a syringe, you can inject the air and leave sealed so that the air does not escape and thus work comfortably .--- Thank you and Regards.

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

not my cordon on one side of the cable measures me 59.9v ac and on the other cable marks me 73.0v ac without going down or climbing something goes wrong on the card there is no other that more can be tested and everything is proven ah only left is the card

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Wilson: --- New response to the drainage pump approach .--- Thanks and Regards.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Wilson .--- If you are able to carry out the following test just to corroborate something and it is the following: --- you will need an extension to connect it to the same outlet where the washing machine is connected .--- Turn on the washer and run the same procedure that you performed for the washing stage where you obtained the average voltages .--- Measure with the tester what tension there is between the cable representing the neutral that normally feeds to the main motor and the phase signal in the extension .--- Comment the value you can get .--- Thanks and Regards.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Agreed Wilson .--- Thanks and Regards.

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

friend btvictor a cordial greeting following with the fault of the washing machine I have no other than to uncover the card medi trac and measure me well what if I notice that the resistances that are connected to the pin of the center of the triac me measured 63 ohms being the green blue and black colors on the color chart should measure 56 ohms

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Regards Wilson .--- I do not consider that value is responsible and much less if they are original (not intervened by anyone else) .--- I am very interested in the test related to the neutral and the extension outside the washing machine to rule something in the neutral .--- I leave the following link to download information of interest: - - http://www.reparatumismo.org/documentos/nuevo%202/TRIACS.pdf-----Allí explain how to review a triac .--- Comment on it .--- Thanks and Regards.

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

ok are ll of the stencion and I tell you and with respect to the triac the same give me the next reading of pin 1 to 2 does not mark anything from pin 1 to 3 gives me a value of 73 ohms both measured equal also has 2 conders are equal square are united with the triac and resistance tell me if that value is correct thanks

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

friend btvictor commented that I already did the extension test put a tip of the tester in the neutral that leaves the plate of the washing machine and the other end put it in a tip of the extension and I frame 0.00 then change of tip and there if I set the 120v ac of my country tell me that it is discarded with that test I hope your answer thanks

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings Wilson .--- I just added information to read .--- Thanks and Regards.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings Wilson.
You should see the circuit of both relays. A relay is not a transformer. If the second relay outputs 12 vdc, it implies that the transformer or some switch allows the change of alternating current from 120 VAC to an alternating current of about 12 VAC. After that it must pass through a bridge of diodes to give place to the signal of 12 vdc and to follow its course to the regulator 7805 that is the one that will supply the 5 vdc to feed the leds of the control panel as well as each door of each triac in the cards for it to work. (keep going).......

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Wilson .--- If the IC is damaged as indicated, it would be good to download the technical information of the same to confirm their inputs and outputs and to have a clearer picture about it .--- Comment on this. Thanks and Regards .--- PS: Sorry for the delay but there are some setbacks with the server.

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

a greeting friend btvictor informed him that the washer is already 100% operative the fault was the inverter the ic uln2003 the same was open and did not send the pulse for the triac was the last thing that I had x try ... thank you x todo your information was very helpful and more knowledge for the future indeed thank you

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings Wilson .--- You did it and I congratulate you .--- Your help will serve as a guide for those confronting a similar situation know what to do about it .--- Perseverance has its merits .--- Keep everything going well. ---Thanks and regards.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Good afternoon wilson josé tecnico. I leave the following link to read on the subject raised there: http://linea-blanca.yoreparo.com/washing-washers/error-e6-desconocido-en-lavadora-automatica-haier-xqb50-10-t1499354.html I am inclined to think that it relates to the water level sensor. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. ------------------- Edited on 22-08-2017 for the first time. Approach I: ** .- 8 minutes ago From: wilson josé tecnico many thanks friend btvictor and it is positive was the pressure switch and I do not frame but the E6 peeero now does nothing osea does not turn the blade to wash the engine probe alone and it works no longer that more try my cordial quisas is the block oh you suggest me or someone to help me thanks -. ** Observations: Greetings Wilson. These types of transmission boxes are formed of two internal axes coupled together in the widest part of the same box: http://i.imgur.com/IwCam2f.png Based on this, two things can cause the flaw you are now confronting: The first: Let the impeller grooves (horizontal stirrer) be worn and replace the impeller should be removed. It involves checking the grooves on the underside of the impeller by removing the central cap from that impeller, loosening and removing the screw securing it to the inner upper shaft, and then pulling the impeller to check. The second: That unfortunately in the planetary clutch there is a wear of the plastic grooves of the gears located there, which would force the replacement of the transmission case: http://i.imgur.com/ak61vlm.png I ask: Is there presence of rust in the clutch area in that transmission case? If that were correct, definitely the replacement of the transmission box is mandatory. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. ------------------------ Edited on 08-08-2017 for the second time. Approach II: ** .- 18 seconds ago From: wilson josé tecnico Well I indicated that the test that I did to the engine was mounted on the bone washer only chop the wires and the probe and the blade rotated normal friend and check what it says and everything is fine it will not be that it is braking the motor bone x the drain engine is not said I - ** ** Observations: Wilson: The motor drain only acts in the stages of the intermediate and final centrifugation. Its task is to release the brake band so that the gearbox housing (3rd axle) and that is coupled to the spinning drum when rotating forces the spinning drum to rotate as well. In the washing and rinsing stages the brake band keeps the housing immobile and only the two internal axes work according to the sketch previously attached. Note that in the rinsing and rinsing stages the inner spring of a guide located in the plastic gear above the pulley must be kept away from the steel cylinder which is coupled to the inner shaft and this to the pulley of the transmission case when the rotation of the pulley is to the left according to the rear view of the washing machine. As the pulley of the transmission case rotates in the opposite direction, the spring expands and further away from the steel cylinder. So much so that without the spring of a guide and without the plastic gear, the impeller will rotate with complete freedom in both senses taking into account the test that you have realized. Since you make mention in connection with having cut the motor cables to carry out the test in a more direct way, I am inclined to think that the problem is presented from the programming card to the main motor. I explain myself: The main motor is fed through two triacs for the respective turns with signal of the same phase. If by any circumstance there were any anomalies that would allow a feed at the same time in both directions of turns with a feed of the phase signal bifurcando towards both sides when only it should do it in one direction, the rotor of the main motor will not know to do because these half voltages will pull it out and as a result, the rotor remains almost immobile. To corroborate that, you would have to use two bulbs at the same time. If both light bulbs are turned on at the same time, there is the fault. The neutral will power both lights while the cable with phase signal for the clock turn would feed to one of the lights while the other cable with phase signal for the anticlockwise turn would feed the other focus. The correct thing would be that one of the two lights will turn on and the other will stay off. When you change the rotation, the second focus will light up while the first focus will turn off. Comment on this to see if it is what happens from the programming card. Thanks and regards. ---------------------- Edited on 08-23-2017 for the first time. Approach III: ** .- 2 hours ago From: wilson josé tecnico I did the bulb and it does not catch either one or the other my cord like that does not reach voltage to the cables it will be able to measure voltage to those cables friend -. ** Observations: Greetings Wilson. Of course you can measure voltage but preferably without the capacitor being connected. Programs the washing stage and once filled the plastic tub at its lowest level, proceed to measure voltage between the cable with neutral signal and one of the cables with phase signal and wait a couple of minutes. You will notice that the reading should rise and then reach zero volts again and again. Same case for the voltage between the cable with neutral signal and the other cable with phase signal. Review and comment. Thanks and regards. ------------------------- Edited on 08-23-2017 for the second time. Approach IV: ** .- 13 minutes ago From: wilson josé tecnico not my cordon on one side of the cable measures me 59.9v ac and on the other cable marks me 73.0v ac without going down or climbing something goes wrong on the card there is no other that more you can try and everything is proven ah only remains is the card .-. ** Observations: Wilson: That is a shared voltage which prevents the main motor rotor from rotating towards one direction or the other. It is necessary to replace both triacs that are located in the aluminum block that acts as a heat sink and then retest. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. ----------------------- Edited on 08-23-2017 for the 3rd time. Approach V: ** .- 9 minutes ago From: wilson josé tecnico ok a question that is doubtful to me the owner of the washing machine told me that I change the bone cleaners the tubes that hold the drum but these were not the originals and the drum was a little lower than normal that has nothing to do with it problem that I present truth -. ** Observations: Wilson: While the entire assembly involving the plastic tub is kept well leveled and at no time does the U-shaped metal guard protecting the pulley from the transmission box touch the floor, nothing to do with the raised fault. What may have happened is that the washer was demanded at a certain time possibly with excess loads of clothes to wash or garments with a lot of volume that prevents the impeller from turning freely, causing an effort on the part of the washing machine and from there for having electronic cards, damage some component that does not support those requirements. You can add water to the plastic tub up to its highest level and check if the metal guard that protects the transmission box rests on the floor or if there is some clearance between the floor and that piece. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. ------------------------ Edited on 23-08-2107 for the 4th time. Approach VI: ** .- 4 minutes ago From: wilson josé tecnico no I already did that test and it does not hit the floor my cordon another thing I just saw is the pump gave me x measure it and only gives me 0.48 ohms connect it to the 110v network and gives a sumbido but this super hard will be tomorrow that the I think it is very little in its value do not you believe -. ** Observations: Wilson: This drain pump has to be replaced. To give you an idea, check the power shown in the legend of the drainage pump. Calculate the amps you consume and then you can determine the theoretical value of your resistance. Example: If the drain pump was 35 watts (watts) and the voltage was 120 VAC, the current would result from 0.292 A. When calculating the value of the resistance would have its value would be around 411 ohms. If you compare both values ​​you will notice the big difference. The drain pump must be replaced. Check that there is tension between your two wires when selecting the spin cycle without water and clothes. PS: On what scale did you measure the ohms? Thanks and regards. ---------------------- Edited on 08-28-2017 for the first time. Approach VII: ** .- 23 minutes ago From: wilson josé tecnico friend btvictor commented that I already did the extension test put a tip of the tester in the neutral that leaves the plate of the washing machine and the other end put it in a tip of the extension and I frame 0.00 then change of tip and there if I mark the 120v ac of my country tell me that it is discarded with that test I hope your answer thanks -. ** Observations: Greetings Wilson: The test that you carried out was to rule out any fault caused by the neutral. The reading of 0.00 volts was due to the fact that both neutrals were in contact. Reading the 120 VAC indicates that the neutral signal coming from the plate is fine. The two voltages you read from the three wires feeding the main motor show that there is a fault on the board or programming board. Approach VIII: ** .- 8 hours ago From: wilson josé tecnico ok I will do the extension and I tell you and with respect to the triac the same give me the next reading of pin 1 to 2 does not mark anything from pin 1 to 3 gives me a value of 73 ohms both measure equal also has 2 conders are equal squares are united with triac and resistance tell me if that value is correct thanks -. ** Observations: Greetings Wilson. The reading between the TM1 and TM2 terminals is fine if measured with an analog (needle) tester. Missing value between terminals TM2 and G (3). As for the value between TM1 and G (the 3) I have no value reference to indicate whether it is right or not. What I can mention is that there must be continuity value between both terminals with the triac disconnected completely from the board or programming board. At this point it would be advisable to contact an electronic technician to check the two circuits coming out of the microcontroller to both triacs. I explain myself: Suppose that from the microcontroller the command comes out at the same time to activate both doors of the two triacs that feed the main motor. The microcontroller would be corrupted and would have to be replaced by a similar card (used), since they are programmed at the factory. In the case of microcontroller being corrupted, the voltages between the three cables that feed the main motor would be of 120 VAC between phase and neutral for each turn and the rotor of the main motor would be unable to rotate of no damage in any other place on the programming card .. But the two values ​​you have measured relate to a single power with phase signal that takes two tracks instead of a single one until you reach the main engine. Since I am not familiar with the electronic part, it is the recommendation that I make to you. It is very possible that some diode involved between both circuits is in problems leaving passing phase signal and giving rise to that bifurcation of tensions. I leave you link on a section of a diagram that does not correspond with that brand of washing machine, but from where I try to interpret that is what actually happens: http://archivos.yoreparo.com/uploads/imagen_post/0001/17/2a888530714be75ea3aac4c03101445bfe4954d3.png At the bottom the neutral signal enters the lower central point of the main motor. At its upper part enters the phase signal that will feed both triacs according to the required rotation. On the left side is the plate or programming card where both signals are output to DC 5 Vdc to activate the gates (which you have indicated as terminal # 3 in your input) of both triacs as the case may be. The yellow box illustrates the path where it is feasible for the signal to fork to feed the other end of the terminal in the main motor and should not occur. The signal before the bifurcation would be in the order of 120 VAC. Then it is divided into two. There are two resistors on the side where the yellow box is, and there are two diodes, which would cause a lower voltage to feed the opposite terminal on the main motor to the yellow recess. It is these two diodes that could be causing the problem. But an electronic technician can confirm or refute if what I have indicated is correct or not. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. -------------------- Edited on 08-08-2017 for the first time. Approach IX: ** .- 8 hours ago From: wilson josé tecnico friend btvictor thank you very much x so valuable information I indicate that I have a digital tester and the measurement of the triac I did with it and with respect to the microprocessor the idea was to repair the washing machine and osea without having to go to a clear technician apart from the help of you I will measure the components that are connected with the triac to see that I get apart from the resistance that tells you that its value is doubtful to me -. ** Observations: Greetings Wilson. The value of the resistance to which you make mention (63 ohms) appears to be within the range considering the tolerance of 10% (+ or -). According to the colors its theoretical value should be 56 ohms. If you add that value to 10% you would get: 56 + 5.6 = 61.6 ohms. The resistance does not increase its value. What is normally expected is that its value will decrease and this is not the case. On the other hand, if the welding points are the factory originals, I would personally rule out that doubt. We will see what happens to the review you carry out. Thanks and regards. ------------------------ Edited on 08-08-2017 for the first time. Approach X: ** .- 35 minutes ago From: wilson josé tecnico friend btvictor a greeting I commented what I found on the plate of the washing machine something strange the plate has 2 relay a diode bridge and before it takes a coil then a condensor of 22uf 450v good I explain to you connected to the network mido voltage to the relays 1 it gives me the voltage the other does not and I measure the aforementioned condessor and it does not measure anything to me like a transformer choper does not measure voltage to me neither in the entrance nor in the exit I did not understand any of that you could help in that thanks .-. * Observations: Good evening wilson josé tecnico. I am not very familiar with the electronic part and the diagram of the programming card is not available, it is difficult to help you. I ask: 1.- When performing the tests carried out in the washing machine, did the digital control panel come on? If that is correct, somehow the transformer must operate in order to obtain at its output the voltage in alternating current of about 12 vac. When the diode passes through that signal and from there to a regulator of 12 vdc and then to the regulator 7805, you will get at its output from the latter the 5 vdc required for the electronic panel to function as well as the brain of the washer. Unless you can upload a well readable image of the tracks on the programming card as well as the face where the electronic components are connected in it, we would give an idea to see what could be done. As well as to ratify to understand the reasons of the two relays that you comment since they feed. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. ----------------------- Edited on 02-09-2017 for the first time. Approach XI: ** .- 1 day ago From: wilson josé tecnico a greeting friend btvictor informed him that the washer is already 100% operative the fault was the inverter the ic uln2003 the same was open and did not send the pulse for the triac was the last thing that I had x try ... thank you x todo your information was very helpful and more knowledge for the future indeed thank you Observations: Greetings Wilson. First of all: Congratulations !!!!! for having located the source of the fault and in turn have made the washer working again. [b] Thanks for your contributions and finally let us know how you managed to solve it. It will be of great help for future cases with similar problem. [/B] Let everything keep going well. Thanks and regards.
wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

many thanks friend btvictor and it is positive was the pressure switch and I do not frame but the E6 peeero now does nothing osea does not turn the blade to wash the engine probe alone and it works no longer that more try my cordial quisas is the block oh you suggest me or someone to help me thanks

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

Well I indicate that the test that is ise to the engine was mounted on the bone washer only chop the wires and the probe and the blade was normal and check the friend and everything is good and it will not be that the braking osea x drain engine engine I do not know

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

verro left me gringo I explained to me if it was what he said to me .... I placed 2 spotlights both united on one side q goes to neutral bone straight from the card the motor does not connect it ie the spotlights are going to do the correct engine work well that's what i tell you to see thank you very much

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

friend a question like I do to do that but without filling the drum where I have the washing machine it is very uncomfortable to fill and empty the drum by blowing the hose of the pressostato servira

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

ok a question that is doubtful to me the owner of the washing machine told me that I change the bone cleaners the tubes that hold the drum but these were not the originals and the drum was a little lower than normal that has nothing to do with it problem that I present

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

no I already did that test and it does not hit the floor my cordon another thing I just saw is the pump gave me x measure it and only gives me 0.48 ohms connect it to the 110v network and gives a sumbido but this super hard will be tomorrow that the I think it's very little in value, you do not believe

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

thank you brother has been of good help his indications when I perform these tests I indicate tomorrow I can not xq work I comment on doing that test thanks

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

friend btvictor thank you very much x so valuable information I indicate that I have a digital tester and the measurement of the triac I did with it and with respect to the microprocessor the idea was to repair the washing machine and osea without having to go to a clear technician apart from the help of you I will measure the components that are connected with the triac aver I get apart from the resistance that tells you that its value is doubtful to me

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

friend btvictor a greeting I commented what I found on the plate of the washing machine something strange the plate has 2 relay a diode bridge and before it takes a coil then a condensor of 22uf 450v good I explain to you connected to the network mido voltage to the relays 1 I give the voltage the other does not and I measure the aforementioned condessor and it does not measure anything to me like a transformer choper does not measure voltage to me neither in the entrance nor in the exit I did not understand any of that you could help in that thanks

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wilson josé tecnico
hace 6 años

friend btvictor commented that I made toooodas the necessary measures on the plate and that I get to think that the ic is open xq I get all the voltage to the condersadores to the autocollator and to the panel of the buttons and with respect to the relays is rare xq one gives me the 120v ac and output does not give me voltage and the other do not give me the 120v ac but if they leave their 12v dc I think it is xq they are united and the current what it does is crusar I say that it can be so

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