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do not centrifuge

josepatricio
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
hello friends I have a washing machine le fuzzi logic it turns out that no centrifuge boots the water but does not spin removed rear cover to see better ise a spin function and I notice that the drain motor does not retract and that the motor rotates with the belt and that only turns the agitator and not the drum ??? what tests ise ?? remove the motor drain it probe out of the machine and it works without problems medi tension in the cables that feed the drain motor and if it arrives tension thinking that it was the plate proceeded to shake it by another one of the same mark and model and nothing
btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Regards josepatricio .--- If the washing machine is LG brand, could you comment if the motor drain is powered by two wires or is it by three wires? --- In the same way comment if the drain motor has a steel wire attached to the end of the brake arm or if it is a guide arm .--- Thank you and Regards.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

hello is fed by 3 cables and if you have retractable arm the strange thing is that it is locked when the machine is in the centrifuging process without energy the motor drain moves without prtoblemas the arm but if you do the process of centrifugal the arm of the motor drain does not you can manually retract what ise was to throw the spring and released the tub and turn the drum I guess it is the motor drain the problem ono ??????

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- I just added new information to read and comment .--- Thanks and Regards.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- At what time or in which stage are you taking the readings? --- At the bank level and not being connected the drain motor yet, you will have different values ​​either for the washing stage with respect to the stage of the centrifugation .--- In the washing stage there is no phase signal through the dark blue wire with white line .--- Thanks and Regards.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

I did a spin test I started it and started to pump the pump and then I noticed that the motor rotated along with the belt but only turns the agitator because the motor drain never drives to release the tub and ise manually pull the spring and the tub was released and started to turn the tub is normal that the arm of the engine drainage is all the outside and when I wanted to retarer manually can not be hard

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- It is not normal that in the centrifugation stage the guide arm is totally outside .--- Let's heal ourselves in health and carry out the following test in the bank: --- with the motor drain only and its guide arm outside completely, it feeds with phase the pin where it is usually connected the pink color cable and with neutral signal the pin of the middle .--- Comment on the result you get .--- Thanks and Regards.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

already ise that test pink wire and neutral wire with the arm all outside retracts until half and when I make a bridge of the pink cable to the third connector finishes to enter the whole arm

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- Perfect! --- That's what is to be expected for the drain to work properly .--- The question now is: Are you sure that the electrical signals through the wires is correct? --- Remove the strap between the two pulleys so as not to damage the motor as well as the clutch area .--- Then very carefully program the washing stage at its low level only with water to measure tension only between the cables pink and blue unicolor .--- Then proceed to measure voltage between the blue and dark blue wires with white line and comments on the voltages.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- Eye: the motor drain you will not install it yet until it is confirmed that it happens with the cables that feed it .--- Thanks and Regards.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

These measures are taken when you are loading water or when you start washing

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- You can do in both cases to familiarize yourself with the process .--- Thanks and Regards.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

hello while loading eagle between pink and neutral blue 220 and between neutral blue and white with 31 volt

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- And in the washing stage? --- You do not need to be carried out as long as the viewer indicates .--- It's just to have a reference .--- Thanks and Regards.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- With that you know that the drain motor from filling the tub until the end of the washing stage, the guide arm of the drain motor must retract by 50%. The voltage of the 31 VAC should be zero. It is very possible that this tension creates a competition with the 220 VAC and the motorcycle does not know what to do .--- Wait for a new contribution.

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- now we go with the centrifugation stage .--- Since the drainage pump is activated, so will the drain motor .--- So check that values ​​you get between the pink wires with unicolor blue and between the unicolor blue and dark blue wires with white line .--- Values ​​in voltages .--- Thanks and Regards.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

only as data before doing the test when it is in the spinning stage I play the motor drain and vibrate

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- In the centrifugation stage the motor drain must be activated and its motor must be kept in constant motion to compete with the tensioner of the brake arm and thus remove the brake band from the surface of the casing of the casing. transmission .--- Thus, the tooth of the arm of the clutc will move away from the white pinion and the spinning drum can rotate freely.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

hi medi between pink and blue neutral 220 between neutral blue and blue striped 220 and between pink and blue striped third cable 002

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- Best values ​​impossible! --- What is the capacity of load of that washing machine? --- Comment on it .------- Re-install the drain motor but without being hooked to the end of the brake arm to perform the tests as they correspond .--- Thanks and Regards .--- Fly with the placement of the cables to be in the right places.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

do I connect the engine to the test?

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

josepatricio: --- No, not yet that we look for to make an empty test to evaluate the behavior of the drain motor .--- Thanks and Regards.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

does not do anything the motor drain stuck

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juan guillermo caceres
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
http://yoreparo.com/electrodomesticos/lavadoras/lg/preguntas/985628/duda-con-falla-drain-motor-lavadora-lg Friend, I can manually actuate the drain motor and check if it rotates the drum??? sometimes the bearings are damaged and therefore do not rotate. regards
josepatricio
hace 6 años

wait, I'll do it

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

hello ise the test of pulling the motor drain and there spin the drum

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juan guillermo caceres
hace 6 años

Friend, check the enlkace that I uploaded to the main answer to see if it helps. regards

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

hello what I do not know that the motor drain when it is not energized you can manually retract the arm but when I do the spin process it is locked impossible to move what ise was to throw the spring back after you must do the engine drain it ise I turn the drum it is normal that the drain motor is locked and you can not retract it back so much so that you pull the spring and not the arm of the motor drain

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juan guillermo caceres
hace 6 años

At the time of centrifuging the arm has to retract to release the drum, so it turns in a turbine / drum together, now if you notice that it is nailed already has a strong suspicion that it would be malfunctioning. Anyway, let's hope that other colleagues express their opinion. regards

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

in the test bench works without problem __----- connected to the washing machine with it off you can easily retract the arm but when I do the centrifugal test inposible move it is locked tube to move the spring to release the tub because with the arm of the drain I could not because it was locked

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años

Greetings juan guillermo caceres.

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

in the same washing the same measure

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btvíctor
btvíctor
27.259
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
josepatricio: The motor drawer has a rigid guide arm which when the washing machine is in the off or on pause positions, said guide arm remains totally outside (visible). When taking the steps of washing (soapy) and rinsing, the guide arm retracts by 50% approx. It does this by means of the pink colored cable that enters the phase signal and through the unicolor blue color cable enters the neutral signal. While in the intermediate spin and final spin stages, the guide arm retracts almost to 100%. Thanks to the fact that the two cables mentioned above maintains their equal and additional power to it, it takes turns the 3rd cable in dark blue with white line with phase signal, to make the guide arm from the center retains almost entirely. The direct power signal does not work for the 3rd cable. Let me explain: if there is no phase signal through the pink colored cable and the dark blue cable with the line if there is a phase, the guide arm will never retract. It involves confirming with the tester whether there is actually signal from the same phase at both ends of the connector that feeds the motor drain and the neutral signal in the middle. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. ---------------------- Edited for the 1st time on 08-08-2017. Approach I: ** .- 55 seconds ago From: josepatricio I gave the tester the cable that feeds the drain motor pink cable and blue that is the neutral 220 I gave pink cable with the third cable that is azuil striped 220 after neutral cable with blue cable striped 220 okay ???? - ** Observations: josepatricio: The voltage between the pink (phase) and blue (neutral) cables for the 220 VAC is correct. The voltage between the dark blue wires with white line (phase) and blue color (neutral) for the 220 VAC is correct. It is not at all correct to read 220 VAC voltage between the pink and dark blue wires with white line because both have the same phase and between them there is no neutral. I am referring to the connector or cables that power the motor drain without being connected to that peripheral . The motor drawer inside has a relay that when activated by the pink cable (phase) and the cable in a color blue (neutral), opens the opportunity that the signal of the cable in dark color with white line feed to the drain motor when that cable receives the phase signal when taking the spinning stages. Comment on this. Thanks and regards. -------------------- Edited for the second time on 08-09-2017. Approach II: ** .- 2 minutes ago From: josepatricio with the bridge that you disjistes me that made I cut I left without light in all the house - [b] Observations: Good evening Josep. There is no reason for that to happen unless the card was faulty. You yourself tested the drain motor on the test bench with the bridge and responded very well. Did not you protect the two connectors that you disconnected from the pink wire and one of them made contact with the wall of the cabinet when doing the test? Both wires in pink would have current in two different ways. If the washing machine cable plug was inverted, the pin of the center of the motor drain would have phase signal and the two extreme pins would have neutral signal. So the bridge should not cause any problems. This procedure has already been used in another topic without any problem until now. It strikes me when at the first opportunity mentioned that there was voltage of 220 VAC between both ends with the motor drain connected. But when the three cables for the respective voltages were checked, between the end wires the voltage turned out to be 002 VAC which could well be tester error tolerance when you carried out the voltage measurement between your three wires in the stage of the filling and in the actual washing step. If there was tension between the unicolor blue wire and the dark blue wire with white line in the filling or the washing stage, I would have immediately mentioned that that would be wrong because the respective triac would be direct and the results showed that everything looked fine. Did the last bridge you made in the motor drain come into contact with the pin at the center of the motor drain? Which did not happen on the test bench. Check to see where the black area is the source of the short occurred. Comment on this. The purpose of the bridge is to make the phase signal of the dark blue cable with white line that is activated in the spinning stages, will feed pin # 1 where the pink cable is usually connected. Upon receiving pin # 1 the phase signal, the guide arm would have the opportunity to retract by 50%. But at the same time and through the internal relay, the phase on pin # 3 would feed the motor to finish retracting the guide arm and thereby releasing the brake band for the spinning stage. If the engine drain was bad, at the test bench level something similar had to happen to stay the property if power supply. If you have a Differential Switch in the building, it may have been deactivated by leaking the phase to the cabinet of the washing machine. Different would be the one of a short where the thermomagnetic that feeds to the circuit of tomacorreiente of the washing machine had to be deactivated and not the main thermomagnetic of the property, unless you only have a single thermomagnetic for the whole address and that for nothing is advisable. Comment on this. Thanks and regards.
josepatricio
hace 6 años

I gave myself with the tester the cable that feeds the drain motor pink and blue cable that is the neutral 220 me di pink cable with the third cable that is azuil striped 220 after neutral cable with cable blue striped 220 okay ????

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josepatricio
hace 6 años

what happens is that you put another original plate of the same washing machine and does the same problem but I will measure well and I will comment all the measures

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ROSO PEREZ
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Greetings from Venezuela. Friend change engine drain and solve.
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