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Microwave oven

fuse replacement (any microwave)

arturi65
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hello boys. A few years ago I asked this same question and they gave me an alternative solution, but not if my idea was valid or not, hence I repeat it again. Microwave input fuses are very common to burn and do not give to test fuses and continue burning. They gave me the idea of an incandescent lamp in replacement of the fuse, but I proposed a 10, 12 or 15 ampere thermal wrench as it corresponds, making a bridge where the fuse is housed. In this way, if there is a short thermal jump and we can continue testing indefinitely without breaking anything. Is it feasible? Thank you.
tecnologo1
hace 6 años

uff I think you could have added this better to locate the fault technically and not put something that has nothing to do with the original design as technicians the important thing is to repair using a practical way to solve any inconvenience in this case a microwave until your integrity is at risk physical if you do something inappropriate

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Carlos Quiroga
hace 6 años

Hello, a lamp is better since the thermal would not make the fuse not break because for that it would have to be of less current than the apparatus that feeds and that way it would always jump.

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Of course, that is so. You follow the logical revisions until you find the failed component or the problem that caused the fuse to blow. Now, at some point you have to test if it is going well and there I pointed out my question. How do you see it? Is it feasible?

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Carlos Quiroga maybe I expressed myself badly. I say put the thermal instead of the fuse, the same amperage as this and only when you do the test to see if everything went well and if so, yes, take out the thermal and put a new fuse.

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Felix Soteldo
hace 6 años

Microwaves are very risky equipment because in their power stage they handle a voltage of up to 2500 Volts so they are considered more dangerous than a TV, disconnected from the mains produce a very strong discharge if the Capacitor has not been previously discharged. Fuse is almost always in this Stage: Transformer, High Voltage Diode and Magnetron, less the Capacitor that does not blow the Fuse.

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Felix, it can also be a problem with a door switch or a bad adjustment of it.

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tecnologo1
hace 6 años

Arturi says in the post that years ago ... then learning how to solve is very slow on the subject

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Technologist 1, I'm a hobbyist. I disarm everything within my reach because I take it as a challenge. I always keep the relevant safety regulations. In the case of the microwave it is essential to discharge the capacitor because its discharge resistance takes a while to do so and it could also be cut. otherwise, it is not a science to travel the circuit and test the fundamental elements that make it work because they are few and easy to detect the problem. I did the lamp thing every time a fuse problem arose, I just wanted to see if my original idea

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JoseO
JoseO
1.634
hace 6 años

Felix, if the high capacitor gets short also flies the fuse, it is one of the most common causes of this happening.

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Felix Soteldo
hace 6 años

I have Got Short Capacitors and the Fuse has not damaged me, this is because the Capacitor itself does not go to Earth, simply by Testing it with a Needle Multimeter it Flexes said Needle towards a certain value and does not Return that is very common in the TVs that the Main Capacitor of the Source when doing this Test goes short, however many TVs turn on with that Element as well, others that do not, that depends on the Model

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JoseO
JoseO
1.634
hace 6 años

Felix, those capacitors are shorted between their terminals, if you think not, tell me where I send you many that I have changed in my workshop so you can see, and they are not tested with a needle tester just in case ...

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Todólogo
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
I hope my contribution is useful when it is the door swtich as soon as you start the microwave immediately after it burns.
arturi65
hace 6 años

replacing it with a thermal wrench was viable and is what has not been answered so far. Regards.

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Hi todologist, yes, most of the time it is the central switch. What I ask is what a different tool would be used to replace the fuse when it is cut for some reason. Thank you for your input.

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Felix Soteldo
hace 6 años

The Door Switch does not damage Fuses, it only closes a Contact that brings Voltage to the Transformer from the low side and this Energizes the High Voltage Group, Capacitor, Diode and Magnetron. The two Cables that are connected to it only reach one Line and to produce a Short, the 2 Lines must arrive, so the Connector that is closer to the Housing has a Plastic Insulator to prevent any contact with it.

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Felix Soteldo
hace 6 años

arturi65, to dispel any doubt you may have with the Microswitche of the Door, you just have to put a filament of Fine Copper Wire, of the Thickness of a Hair where the Fuse goes, disconnect 1 of the Transformer Low terminals that leaves the Microswitche, Connect the Microndas and do a simulation of Equipment Operation, Programs and you start it by the Start must turn the Dish with Internal Light On, the filament is not going to melt, because the High Power Stage is not connected Tension.

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Thanks Felix Soteldo for the tip to try the door switch

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tecnologo1
hace 6 años

felix the switch siiii damages the fuse

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Felix Soteldo
hace 6 años

No, technologist1, the Microswitch acts as a Damper, only when closing the Door it makes Contact because the pressure of the Door pushes the Button like a Pushbutton and this closes its Internal Contacts, the short one is produced Downstream and comes from the Transformer Group -Diodo-Magnetron, the only way to get a short one there is for one of its Plugs to touch the Equipment Housing, so the nearest one has a Plastic Cover.

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oswaldo lizarraga
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Good morning Arturi65, you can do on your work table an installation which has a 20 amp thermal, ready for tests of devices that have failures like the one you mentioned, for example a microwave that burns input fuses, you put your microwave on to say with the fuse blown and immediately the thermal will jump and turn off when there is excessive consumption or impending short circuit, with this you will know that your microwave is failing the door switches or maybe crossed capacitor, or crossed magnetron, etc. The thermomagnetic key of good quality preference. Otherwise I see no need to make other uses.
arturi65
hace 6 años

Oswaldo Lizarra, that was the answer I wanted to read: If it was possible to have the test bench a thermal to replace the fuse, I understand that when you say with the FIBERED FUSE it is precisely with the thermal key, right?

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oswaldo lizarraga
hace 6 años

Exactly.

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tecnologo1
hace 6 años

anyway

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JoseO
JoseO
1.634
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Each person works as he wishes until a stumble is carried by a stubborn, nothing like a lamp to detect short circuits, and if so, the tools (tester or multimeter) are used to find where the problem is and solve the fault before start the device again safely, what you intend to do is go hand in hand piece by piece pulling the cause of the fault, meanwhile it would skip the thermal every time, typical of who has no idea what it does .
arturi65
hace 6 años

Mr. JoseOrtiz ,. I do not deny his knowledge although he mentions a tester that is a tool that surely occurred to the one who created it could be used for certain technical works. What I was proposing is also a tool that replaces the fuse in the final test.

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tecnologo1
hace 6 años

AL SR Arturi I recommend watching some videos on the internet are very good and give different data that will make your practice more enjoyable because it will give you more tools in the experience

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JoseO
JoseO
1.634
hace 6 años

Well, the tester is for you to look for the problem and the solutions and not to blow fuses or raise thermal because you are not sure that you have done your job well, for those things a thermal is not viable, if you do your review and solve the short that you can have the microwave replacing what has been damaged you can reconnect your device with everything and fuse and it does not have to burst if you did your job well, that simple ...

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Explain to me technically why the fuse could not be replaced by a thermomagnetic key. I am speaking from its factory configuration, that is, the diagram devised with a key and not with a fuse. If you can answer that TECHNICALLY and not economically, I will consider your response as that of someone who has knowledge.

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JoseO
JoseO
1.634
hace 6 años

Look friend don't think I'm going to waste my time technically explaining something to a person who doesn't understand or speaking in the simple way, several of us here have told you why and you're still stubborn without understanding, because you don't ask the microwave maker why not puts a thermomagnetic instead of a fuse? Do you know why you did not do it ?, and why other manufacturers do not do it on their equipment instead of putting fuses? Do you know the difference between a fuse and a thermomagnetic? That's where those wise words come that say: The one who argues with a stubborn is wasting his time.

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Mr. Jose Ortiz. He is not arguing. The manufacturer's answer is simple: Economical. As for the difference between a fuse and a thermomagnetic one, you should know (I suppose) that both are designed to allow a maximum of current intensity and then cut. With a small difference the fuse remains unused and the key can still be used. In fact, if you have. Some years, you will know that the fuses were used in family homes and then they were replaced by the keys because of their practicality and to prevent unscrupulous electricians (continue below)

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JoseO
JoseO
1.634
hace 6 años

I go back and repeat, who argues with a stubborn? Do not pretend that you are your teacher or teach him something that you should investigate before coming to discuss in this forum, I do not have to show you anything, rather I would recommend that you be better instructed between the differences between one thing and the other, not it is only "allow a maximum of current" and that "one is unused and the other is not", as many years as have not served much ...

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Something is right. You cannot argue with a stubborn that has a closed mind to new options. Luckily, not everyone is like that, if not today we would still be with the valve TV.

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JoseO
JoseO
1.634
hace 6 años

Yes man, tremendous choice, what a good joke to spend the day ...

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arturi65
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
[b] tecnologo1 I must have on the PC I don't know if all, but at least most of the Internet videos, as well as a lot of PDF. I think you are against it from the beginning of the post that I have proposed a TOOL that does not replace nor can knowledge. In the same way that a tester is not necessary to detect continuity (it can be replaced by other means) I propose a thermal key for the final test. I ask that you explain technically if it is possible or not, refusing the denial itself makes no sense. My deduction is as follows: If the fuse is 10 A it is because in that circuit that amount of current could circulate if one replaces it with a thermomagnetic key it will fulfill the same function, even if one wanted to remove the fuse forever and put the key somewhere available (if any). It is not that I am going to do it or I pretend that someone does it, it just seems to me that to be against something, valid arguments must be put on the table. [/B]
arturi65
hace 6 años

They put the installation at risk. So, sir, I think you are trying to pretend knowledge that you don't have, or at least not in this case.

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tecnologo1
hace 6 años

Arturi leave it like this if in years as you say nsdie has answered you I will do it less and attack the conicures of another person I do not think it is right to desmerit meos here in this forum is not allowed

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arturi65
hace 6 años

Technologist 1 precisely that is what they have done with me - to take credit for my idea - Except for 2 exceptions, they have sent me to study without even presenting evidence that I am technically wrong that it would be really valid.

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