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Tv phillips 20pt529a / 55r vertical a bit closed

Osman Ramos
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Good evening companions I come to bother you and I went crazy with this problem. The problem is that the image is closed as 2 inches from top to bottom. I started to face the fault by checking voltages of the vertical ic and everything apparently is in an acceptable range then continue changing the electrolytic capacitors that according to me there was going to be repaired the TV since it is a very common fault that the image is closed a little by a capacitor in poor condition but to my surprise the fault followed I changed the capacitors that were in the vertical stage and nothing even the surface ones, enter service mode to be able to correct and nothing. I would greatly appreciate a help.
leasmacruz
leasmacruz
1.594
hace 6 años

Check the resistance of the vertical erapa deve aver a devalued and change filters of the vertical especially the large and the output to the yoke

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Thanks for answering. Notice that I already measured all the resistances and apparently they all mark an acceptable range. The filters have already changed them all

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leasmacruz
leasmacruz
1.594
hace 6 años

Aseptable range? For me, an asrptabñe tango is 1 ohm of difenciano more

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Yes, you're right! I meant that they are apparently in good condition and at face value

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Yes, you're right! I meant that they are apparently in good condition and at face value

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leasmacruz
leasmacruz
1.594
hace 6 años

Friend, my recommendation is to detract a leg and measure them because in the form it gives false reading

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Fijat that if I measured them outside the plate. Thanks for the comment

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santiago moreno cabrerate
hace 6 años

Source problems or change the vertical

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
it can be a problem of the yoke, since you say that the resistances, the integrated one and the capacitors are fine and the TV is still the same. You have to try with another identical one but that it is well. greetings
Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

I have some screens with everything and yoke of some phillips I think I have to take into account the value in onmios of the coils really.

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 6 años

If of course, if it is a common tube, it can walk from another brand, now if it is flat or semi-flat it must be the same as the one it has placed.

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Thank you I will try with the other one of yours and comment

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luis tartaglia
hace 6 años

Hi. When entering the mode I served in the adjustment of vertical parameters these by making vary their values have an effect on the image or not?

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

If they take effect. You can see how the image runs up or down depending on the setting

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

But nothing else in the box of the image that is seen and not influenced by anything to upload the image to the side up that needs to be filled on the screen

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luis tartaglia
hace 6 años

That adjustment is centered.
It has no amplitude?

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Well, it doesn't appear to me

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

I already tried another yoke and the fault persists

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leasmacruz
leasmacruz
1.594
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
friend this is the part of the vertical do not take it badly but check again the resistors and diodes and filters that Indicates replacing filters with new unused ones and the resistances are not undervalued and confirm the supply voltage between not dropped
Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Of course not. Any suggestions are good.

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luis tartaglia
hace 6 años

The vertical opening is regulated with the VAM.

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Friend, I just noticed that horizontal geometry and vertical geometry only shot me vertically and it didn't give me another option

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Friend Luis tartagila apologize note that I told you that I already found the option that you told me about VAM and if it opens the image but does not completely fill the screen. Apologies

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
colleague Oscar Ramos: I suggest a suggestion if I still do not repair that fault ... if I already change all the filters and enter the service mode without results and the supply voltage of the (lc vertival) is inside what, says in schema .. .pin2y6 = 13v + ... pin4 = 13v -... uvique the R3471 of 3.3 ohm and the R3472 of 3.9ohm ... both are parallel in the return of the yoke to mass ... try welding an R 3.3ohm in parallel with the R3471 and 3472 ... there you have to fill the screen vertically ... if you see q, open a lot try with a 4.7ohm or a 10ohm ... what q, you can pass is that the R3471 and R3472 are a bit undervalued ... and there the prob, lack of power in the vertical stage ... do what is suggested and comment results .... greetings!
luis tartaglia
hace 6 años

Nico is well suggested. But it's weird that I can't adjust the way I saw anything.

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

do this test ... maybe you just need a resistor to solve the problem ... uvica the R3471 and 3472 temporarily weld a 3.3ohm and will open the screen more ... if you see q, open a lot take it out and try with a 4.7ohm or try a 10ohm ... the one with 3.3ohm is (orange-orange-gold) the one with 4.7ohm is (yellow-violet-gold) the one with 10ohm is (black-black brown golden) cheaper and simple can not be ... comment results ... ok ..

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

hello colleague Luis Tartaglia ... greetings ... this, I suggest to the colleague is xq, he said that, I enter the service mode but without results ...
it can happen that sometimes it cannot be solved from the m, service ... or maybe in this case if ... but instead of looking for so much with a single resistance it can be solved ... it has to be the value suitable since. R3471 and 3472 may have lost their original value a little ... greetings and ... Happy Sunday ...

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

That friend nicomena, notice that I did what was suggested and indeed the image opened completely only that everything looks stretched with black lines. Notice that at the beginning before giving the image I throw three colored lines where the image was previously

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

well: x that will clarify that, you will test with different resistance values ... I do not know what, you put value but if you stretch a lot and the logos of the channels are off the screen it puts another resistance value higher ... try with one of 10ohm and take out the q, put ... comment q, value you put ... first there is q, find the appropriate value and q, the image stretches us beyond what is necessary ..ok..new with a 10ohm ... (brown-black-black-gold) and comment results ... ok ..

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 6 años

It is clear that the problem lies in devalued resistances, he did not make the measurements well. The colleague Nicomena2015 hit the key so do not forget to give him the solution. Change the resistances he indicated.

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

Hello VICTOR colleague ... greetings ... thanks for your support and solarity with us that, recently we started in this forum I repair ... I congratulate you for such a long career in this forum and to so many colleagues who have helped ... greetings and happy sunday in the company of your family ...

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Victor E
Victor E
65.783
hace 6 años

Thank's my friend regards

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Hello friends, what I do not understand is because if I change the resistance for the value that is the fault persists

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Good. Friends change the R 3472 and 3471 for ones of the same value and the fault persists, just put another resistor in parallel of 10 ohm and do not open the image but I put a 2ohm and if it opens but the image very stretched and nothing is looked at I already put one of 4.7 and it still looks closed

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luis tartaglia
hace 6 años

What value did you put resistance when it was possible to see stretched image?
remember that you entered servi mode and expanded
place the R again where the stretched image was seen and go back into servi mode and see if you can reduce

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

Hello colleague LUIS: that was exactly what, hiva to suggest ... put a parallel of 3.3ohm or 2.2ohm with the R3472 and R2471 and enter the service mode and see if now it is possible to shrink the vertical deflection. ..xq, it cannot be q, stretch as much or shrink as much ... and if the OSD does not appear as you do to enter the service mode ... it will be q, when stretching so much the OSD is not noticed ... ok .. .Try to correct from m, service ...

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Osman Ramos
hace 6 años

Well friends, I commented that in the end I could not reach a specific solution, what I did manage to do is open the image a little in service mode although the osd was not seen from the bottom but that is how the friend who took it I was repairing. I forgot to comment that to fill the image I put an R of 4.7 ohm in parallel. Infinite thanks to all for having the intention to help God keep them and until next time

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