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video failure samsugn chassis tv delay lines KS9B

limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Greetings friends of the forum. I have a samsung tv from chassis KS9B with video problems and without OSD. Only blue screen and delay lines. I have done the basic measures to go looking for the problem. I want to reset the eeprom, but without OSD I can't know what I'm moving. there are 175 volts at the flyback output to the trc socket and I have 1.9 volts at the tda inputs that goes to the cathodes the trc. Under the screen a little to see if the lines disappear and remain the same. I have noticed that if I increase the screen the video voltage decreases to 170 and a little less. I have also noticed that the eeprom slc sda pins have an unstable voltage and vary between 2 and 2.6 volts. regards
manolo karvalo
hace 6 años

Hello Friend. You have already changed the filter of the 180volt of the video and you have solved all the cold solders that are on the plate and how much the + b measures

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limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años

Hi friend Karval. I have not changed the 180volt filter, but I have measured it with a capacimeter. and I have already solved the plaque. The + b already measured it and it's fine. I'm going to change the filter you say for added security. Thanks for the info, regards.

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
hello buddy: you have to measure if the 175v q, you have in the C412 of 22mfx250v reach the socket of the tube and if they are present in pin6 of the lc501-TDA6107Q ... measure what, tension has in the cathodes of the tube ... .the voltage q, goes to the 5v-a eeprom comes from the line of 12v in C817 of 1000mfx25v in source ... and through the R818 goes to the zener DZ203 q, the one that stabilizes in the (5v-a) q , goes to the eeprom and other points of the tv ... measure voltage in the C825 if the voltage of 5v-a is regulated ... check or measure the R818 of (390ohm x 2w) if it is within that value ... Check the zener (DZ203 of 5.1v) and (DZ213 of 5.6v) and see if they are not leaking ... measure the + b in C821-822- if when giving power they are in the 125v .... try change the C817 of 1000mfx25v..and C821 of 100mfx160v ... greetings !!
Jeesus Caicedo
hace 6 años

CHANGE THE FILTERS THAT THE FRIEND MANOLO TELLS YOU

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limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años

Hi friend Nicomena. The tests I did if I have 175 volt in the socket of the tube and are present in the tda 6107jf. 1.9vol of the integrated RGB inputs are also present. Analyzing this integrated, I believe that if all three inputs have the same or approximately equal voltage, then it should have the same voltages at the cathodes of the tube. What do you think of that? The eeprom has 5 volts of power, only that the slc and sda pins are unstable voltages. The other components that you say I will review and tell you. Thanks for the help, regards

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

Hello; the voltage q, you have on pins 1-2-3- of the tda6107Q ... they are very low ... you have to measure if the supply voltage reaches the microscope lc201s ... pin54-56-61- = 3.3v ..pin14-39- = 8v ... measure q, voltage you have on pin49 ... deverian haver (approx) 4v ... measure q, voltage you have on pins51-52-53- RGB output to pins 1 -2-3- del (lc tda6107Q) ... apparently lc201s doesn't work for you ...
check the x201 glass of (12mhz) if it is working ... you can also have the damaged eeprom ... comment ..

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limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años

Hi friend Nicomena. sorry for the delay. I was repairing a pc monitor while thinking about the tv. Tomorrow I measure the tensions as you say. I have a diagram, but it does not reflect the voltages in the circuits. I find that data to clear doubts. With respect to the eeprom, I have a blank of 24c04, apparently the Samsung TVs copy the data of the eeprom through the micro. I don't know if you have to follow some steps to record it. remember that I do not have an OSD and could not enter the service menu.

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

try that blank ... turn on and wait a few seconds and see if the micro loads the data in the eeprom ... see if OSD appears on the screen ... if the micro does not work so you should load the eeprom with the data to that model and chassis ... and try again ... do not forget the x201 glass and see if it oscillates ... the outputs of the RGB pins 51-52-53- should be (approx) at about 2.5v .. .okay..

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limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años

Hello friends. Regarding this fault, reading a little about others who have had the same problem, I decided to disconnect the blue cathode. (KB) and the continuous display illuminated in blue with delay lines. When doing this test you should stop emitting the screen blue. It means that it is short and the screen is the problem. I wait for suggestions. Thank you

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

If you have a blue screen with delay lines it can be a tube problem ... since, you say that, you disconnected it from lc tda6107 and it continues in blue and with delay lines ... blue cathode may be short with the filaments. .. the only thing you have left is to make three turns of the insulated cable in the fli-bak core and to detach the two legs that correspond to the heater ... it has to be totally insulated from the tracks, they are welded ... ok .. and those two legs weld the two wires q, leave the three turns q, made the core ... weld again the blue cathode to the tda and see if there is no blue background

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limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años

Good morning friend NicomenA. According to the analysis, the blue cathode is short, but with the tester I have not been able to verify that it measures with some of the heather or filament pins. I have to isolate the filament as you say and try. Is it correct that you do not detect with the tester that is short with some of the filaments?

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nicomena2015
nicomena2015
9.501
hace 6 años

if it can be detected ... but it is half complicated since, an external source is needed to heat the filament and a separate socket ... so as not to go beyond tension you can put in series with one of the tips of the three turns to the nucleus of the fli-bak an R of 2.2ohm ... and see what tone the filament has ... it shows when it is past tension because the color of the filament becomes bright ... look how the filament tone is with the tension original and compare with the external voltage ... it should be a little brighter..ok..comment results

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limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
By the way, the video voltage measuring between 170 and 175 volts, depending on whether the screen potentiometer varied stabilized at 180 volts. I want to do that test to isolate the filament with the auxiliary winding, but without going over the voltage necessary for it to work properly. I have read cases in which said filament is damaged.
limkon
limkon
19
hace 6 años

Greetings to all the friends of this forum. I tell you that I already solved the problem of this tv. The fault arose because the blue kinescope of the kinescope was short. The solution was to isolate the feed with the filament, taking it from the core of the flyback with an insulated cable and separating the earth that connects to the filament. Thanks to those who collaborated giving suggestions and opinions that helped me a lot. Thank you companion Nicomena for your constancy.

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