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Tv philips 20pt324b with audio without video

mario satake
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Greetings friends of the forum ..... I come to ask for your help with this TV that came to me without turning on, I had the plate bored by high tension well in the pin of the yoke connector near the flayback, it is the second TV this week with the same problem that brings me luck First I already repaired hehe .. well luckily I have here an identical plate to this one in the sucata so I could redo the tracks and the TV turned on, with audio but without video, the + b is 97v I think it's normal, the tension of the video is in 200v arrives on the crt board, the g2 I have it in 350v the doubt is in the filament, it does not measure anything I do not know if this tension is ac or dc the strange thing is that when changing channels several times the image appears and then the TV turns off, I turn it on again and nothing video, I solved the plate of the socket, I was very cold welded, I would appreciate some information from friends, as to the doubts I present, of course thank you very much . Mario.
neg2013
neg2013
14.048
hace 6 años

Good afternoon: If you cannot see the brightness of the filament in the neck (Heater), you can measure it with DC in the tester, you have to give a reading of approximately 6 volts. Only with an oscilloscope can you see clearly its voltage and signal, (I think it is 27 Vpp. Look for diagrams from the WEB. You can check resistors, cut tracks, false contacts, this has to be done from the MAIN board to the small board of the TRC. (I think you can speed up the screen a little to see what happens)

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mario satake
hace 6 años

Hello friend, thanks for the help I tell you that I tested with an analog tester and a half 5v dc until the crt plate the neck was very dirty so I could not see what was going on, with this I know that it is not a filament problem, I'm going to keep looking for what I find. regards

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mario satake
hace 6 años

Alse the escrem until the maximum and nothing appears still without video and osd.

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laclinicatvsa
hace 6 años

good if you have a socket on hand change it have it happen greetings

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mario satake
hace 6 años

Hello friend, unfortunately, what I have in the sucata is in very bad condition.

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Javier Honduras
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Greetings friend, check the resistors associated with the ABL pin of the flyback
mario satake
hace 6 años

The resistances are good friend I have 12v in the abl and probe if the protection of the BCL protn was activated but not in the collector of the 7401 it has 0v which indicates that it is not activated.

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Jose Fernandezelectronico
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
Hi Mario, if when you turn on the TV, you continually change the channel and while you do this, the image comes out and the TV does not turn off, then you have a problem with IK (cathode current) and this is because at least one of the 3 colors does not is performing well; why look when an image comes out if any of the colors does not yield and check the line of this color in the socket of the tube. (check that when solving you have not made any bridge) The way that the TV continues to function and does not cut is placing 3 detector diodes 1N4148 with their tails (anodes) welded each after the 3 resistors 3257, 3258 and 3259 (47 ohm each) that leave pins 19, 20, and 21 of jungle 7550 (TDA8844). (One tail in each diode). and then joining the 3 tips of the diodes (cathodes) and welding this joint in the line of pin 18 of the micro. You can do this on terminal 0243 with 6 legs.
mario satake
hace 6 años

Hello friend, now you don't do it anymore I don't get the image when I change the channel, but you're right when I did the color was out of adjustment, I will verify well and then comment again.
thanks to everyone...

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mario satake
hace 6 años

Apparently they are fine on the 3 pins of the tube rgb I have equal tensions 202v dc v14 v15 v16 I also tried another original eprom of the plate that I have and nothing ....

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Jose Fernandezelectronico
hace 6 años

but if you have 202v, then there is no consumption in the video output transistors; there must be between 120 and 140v at each cathode. I measured at the bases of them there should be around 2v in the three transistors. The one of the 3 diodes 1n4148 that I mentioned to you is so that the TV does not turn off even if the tube cathodes are exhausted.

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Jose Fernandezelectronico
hace 6 años

This TV has 3 tube transistors per color on the socket plate. The voltage of around 2v or 2.4v that I tell you in the bases you must measure in transistors 7331 (blue), 7321 (red) and 7311 (green) and arrive from the jungle. If they are not working the other 2 transistors in each color and there is no consumption so you have 202v in each cathode instead of about 140v

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tecnologo1
hace 6 años

look for a video of how to cancel ik circuit and solve it easily

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mario satake
hace 6 años

Good morning....
Thanks for continuing to help me, I'm going to try another tube now to get out of doubt .....

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mario satake
hace 6 años

Now I tested a tube of a philco and it has no brightness so it is not that the tube is exhausted, I measured the bases of the transistors and there is no tension in them either in the jungle pins, this wants to say that the fault is in the jungle jungle?
Regards.

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Jose Fernandezelectronico
hace 6 años

when you said that by changing the channel, the image came out (with mismatched colors) indicated that the tube could be wrong and that is why it went out (IK); but then you said that no image came out yet changing the channel and you also didn't have the 2.4v tensions in the bases; This can be a problem of the TDA8844 jungle (7250 cerigraphy). Measure the tensions in it. If you retouched any welding in the same verify that you have not made any bridge with welding.

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mario satake
hace 6 años

The TV turned off only when the image appeared now with the black screen does not turn off, well I tell you what I did, I did the procedure of the LED flashing to see what the mic indicated, it worked started a series of flashes that shows the protection code 6 and 12 indicating problem in the crt stage then proceeded to change the crt board got a good condition of the same chassis but 14 inches, the result was that there are no changes I still have a black screen, now I will proceed to change the jungle ci aver what happens then comment ...

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tecnologo1
hace 6 años

you're getting complicated I think
a question what voltage do you have on grid that comes from the fly back

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mario satake
hace 6 años

I think if my friend, I turned it from end to end, right now I changed the jungle and nothing to solve, what changed was that when you raise the escrem you see some shine with lines you mean the tension of the filament It is 5vdc.

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mario satake
hace 6 años

Well guys I tell you what happened, after changing so many components without success, I began to think and use a little reasoning and logic that I think are fundamental in electronics, which had happened on this television, as I mentioned at the beginning I had the perforated plate, and singed, for this to happen there was a lot of tension near the hole, logically there would have to be more damaged components, I started to check the resistance values and EUREKA !!! I found 2 open, which are the r3407 220r 3404 12k one is connected to the horizontal coil

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Jose Fernandezelectronico
hace 6 años

Very good that you found it. It is best to always work with the circuit and measuring. That burnt R 3402 (12k) sends the horizontal pulse of the flyback (Hflybk) by A7-32 to A4 to pin 41 of the jungle 7250 (tda8844) and also to A7 by A32 to the base of transistor 7610 and the collector from east to pin 37 of micro 7600 (SAA5565P).

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Jose Fernandezelectronico
hace 6 años

Thanks Mario and I want to clarify why I am wrong the resistance that the Hflybk pulse is the 3404 (12k) and not 3402 as I put and the 3407 is the one that takes the 95v (+ B) and goes to the def coil. Horiz Regards.

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mario satake
hace 6 años

No thanks to you for the clarification now I have it written down, for me it is important to learn to interpret the circuit knowing its operation facilitates the repair I almost found the fault before I was to measure the transistor 7610 and I did not hehehe ..

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mario satake
hace 6 años
hace 6 años
continuing And the other one to pin 1 of the flayback, luckily the TV already works normally, I just need to remove it from the service mode, I want to thank everyone for their valuable help that they have much success and blessings in their repairs, the work should not be lost It is very scarce you have to try all the possibilities.

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